Duel Cheater - kumar.jeetsuper

In conclusion to. AtWar cannot be played a single way, just like there isn't one way to play a single country. AtWar has numerous game modes, and game settings that offer variety to the community. This is very beneficial; Game modes won't become stale because there is always another game mode to learn and play. However, when new game modes arise, and they become popular, there usually becomes a need to alter these modes/ and settings. just as there is with bug fixes on new maps and so on.

Banning a player for using all settings given to him is very sad. It limits the growth of new game modes, and stagnates the already stale game play here on AtWar.

Eshkruar nga W4R_MaChINE, 10.08.2016 at 23:17

Eshkruar nga Kraigg, 10.08.2016 at 22:58

Eshkruar nga W4R_MaChINE, 10.08.2016 at 22:30

Eshkruar nga Kraigg, 09.08.2016 at 01:56

As much as I appreciated when they (finally) got rid of mid-game duels, I still cant make sense of having this capture neutral feature for duels especially. I dare anyone to give me an example of a legit duel using capture neutral...
So Just fucking get rid of the possibility and stop giving tools to trolls, cause u know... trolls gonna troll

I think this feature can be very useful for very diverse games. i played a few games in my tenure here where the settings were set to capture and hold a random country. it was a 4 person FFA game. It wasn't the normal competitive style game, it was a more relaxed game mode, where walls and chaining units were set as priority to win.

"I still cant make sense of having this capture neutral feature for duels"
in my book, a duel with capture neutral isnt legit, ever

Perhaps because you are so use to the norm on atwar..? Or you just can't see yourself playing a duel like that? i think the same could be said for clovis' famous no expansion duels, or the famous malta/cyprus duels. These game modes were invented by players, and they offered variety and strategy in the gameplay. Admins implemented the game feature in question for variety. So that all vanilla gameplay won't get stale after long periods of time. Now am I saying this feature should stay in duel modes? We haven't got that far in our discussion. I am just saying that he used a legitimate feature in game. He did not deserve a ban, and an sp reduction. If players are upset with the feature they can speak with mods, and mods can then discuss the feature with the game admins.

A PLAYER CALLED RIEN A DIRE GOT THE BAN AND SP REDUCTION FOR PLAYING IN BEGINNER LOBBY AND FARMING NOOBS. KUMAR GOT AWAY. OMFG CAN YOU READ??!!

Eshkruar nga Darth., 10.08.2016 at 23:25

Eshkruar nga W4R_MaChINE, 10.08.2016 at 23:17

Eshkruar nga Kraigg, 10.08.2016 at 22:58

Eshkruar nga W4R_MaChINE, 10.08.2016 at 22:30

Eshkruar nga Kraigg, 09.08.2016 at 01:56

As much as I appreciated when they (finally) got rid of mid-game duels, I still cant make sense of having this capture neutral feature for duels especially. I dare anyone to give me an example of a legit duel using capture neutral...
So Just fucking get rid of the possibility and stop giving tools to trolls, cause u know... trolls gonna troll

I think this feature can be very useful for very diverse games. i played a few games in my tenure here where the settings were set to capture and hold a random country. it was a 4 person FFA game. It wasn't the normal competitive style game, it was a more relaxed game mode, where walls and chaining units were set as priority to win.

"I still cant make sense of having this capture neutral feature for duels"
in my book, a duel with capture neutral isnt legit, ever

Perhaps because you are so use to the norm on atwar..? Or you just can't see yourself playing a duel like that? i think the same could be said for clovis' famous no expansion duels, or the famous malta/cyprus duels. These game modes were invented by players, and they offered variety and strategy in the gameplay. Admins implemented the game feature in question for variety. So that all vanilla gameplay won't get stale after long periods of time. Now am I saying this feature should stay in duel modes? We haven't got that far in our discussion. I am just saying that he used a legitimate feature in game. He did not deserve a ban, and an sp reduction. If players are upset with the feature they can speak with mods, and mods can then discuss the feature with the game admins.

A PLAYER CALLED RIEN A DIRE GOT THE BAN AND SP REDUCTION FOR PLAYING IN BEGINNER LOBBY AND FARMING NOOBS. KUMAR GOT AWAY. OMFG CAN YOU READ??!!

Even if he was not banned, it still speaks to players who consider this as cheating. You will see this a lot on forums. This can clear a lot of air around these newer game settings.

Eshkruar nga W4R_MaChINE, 10.08.2016 at 23:27

Eshkruar nga Darth., 10.08.2016 at 23:25

Eshkruar nga W4R_MaChINE, 10.08.2016 at 23:17

Eshkruar nga Kraigg, 10.08.2016 at 22:58

Eshkruar nga W4R_MaChINE, 10.08.2016 at 22:30

Eshkruar nga Kraigg, 09.08.2016 at 01:56

As much as I appreciated when they (finally) got rid of mid-game duels, I still cant make sense of having this capture neutral feature for duels especially. I dare anyone to give me an example of a legit duel using capture neutral...
So Just fucking get rid of the possibility and stop giving tools to trolls, cause u know... trolls gonna troll

I think this feature can be very useful for very diverse games. i played a few games in my tenure here where the settings were set to capture and hold a random country. it was a 4 person FFA game. It wasn't the normal competitive style game, it was a more relaxed game mode, where walls and chaining units were set as priority to win.

"I still cant make sense of having this capture neutral feature for duels"
in my book, a duel with capture neutral isnt legit, ever

Perhaps because you are so use to the norm on atwar..? Or you just can't see yourself playing a duel like that? i think the same could be said for clovis' famous no expansion duels, or the famous malta/cyprus duels. These game modes were invented by players, and they offered variety and strategy in the gameplay. Admins implemented the game feature in question for variety. So that all vanilla gameplay won't get stale after long periods of time. Now am I saying this feature should stay in duel modes? We haven't got that far in our discussion. I am just saying that he used a legitimate feature in game. He did not deserve a ban, and an sp reduction. If players are upset with the feature they can speak with mods, and mods can then discuss the feature with the game admins.

A PLAYER CALLED RIEN A DIRE GOT THE BAN AND SP REDUCTION FOR PLAYING IN BEGINNER LOBBY AND FARMING NOOBS. KUMAR GOT AWAY. OMFG CAN YOU READ??!!

Even if he was not banned, it still speaks to players who consider this as cheating. You will see this a lot on forums. This can clear a lot of air around these newer game settings.

It wasn't cheating for the settings. It was cheating because he changed the settings in the last seconds before starting the game. Which is a shit move and which is why the duel was removed by mods after the guy admitted it proudly in chat.
Edit: this isn't a new game setting it's quite old

Eshkruar nga Darth., 10.08.2016 at 23:30

Eshkruar nga W4R_MaChINE, 10.08.2016 at 23:27

Eshkruar nga Darth., 10.08.2016 at 23:25

Eshkruar nga W4R_MaChINE, 10.08.2016 at 23:17

Eshkruar nga Kraigg, 10.08.2016 at 22:58

Eshkruar nga W4R_MaChINE, 10.08.2016 at 22:30

Eshkruar nga Kraigg, 09.08.2016 at 01:56

As much as I appreciated when they (finally) got rid of mid-game duels, I still cant make sense of having this capture neutral feature for duels especially. I dare anyone to give me an example of a legit duel using capture neutral...
So Just fucking get rid of the possibility and stop giving tools to trolls, cause u know... trolls gonna troll

I think this feature can be very useful for very diverse games. i played a few games in my tenure here where the settings were set to capture and hold a random country. it was a 4 person FFA game. It wasn't the normal competitive style game, it was a more relaxed game mode, where walls and chaining units were set as priority to win.

"I still cant make sense of having this capture neutral feature for duels"
in my book, a duel with capture neutral isnt legit, ever

Perhaps because you are so use to the norm on atwar..? Or you just can't see yourself playing a duel like that? i think the same could be said for clovis' famous no expansion duels, or the famous malta/cyprus duels. These game modes were invented by players, and they offered variety and strategy in the gameplay. Admins implemented the game feature in question for variety. So that all vanilla gameplay won't get stale after long periods of time. Now am I saying this feature should stay in duel modes? We haven't got that far in our discussion. I am just saying that he used a legitimate feature in game. He did not deserve a ban, and an sp reduction. If players are upset with the feature they can speak with mods, and mods can then discuss the feature with the game admins.

A PLAYER CALLED RIEN A DIRE GOT THE BAN AND SP REDUCTION FOR PLAYING IN BEGINNER LOBBY AND FARMING NOOBS. KUMAR GOT AWAY. OMFG CAN YOU READ??!!

Even if he was not banned, it still speaks to players who consider this as cheating. You will see this a lot on forums. This can clear a lot of air around these newer game settings.

It wasn't cheating for the settings. It was cheating because he changed the settings in the last seconds before starting the game. Which is a shit move and which is why the duel was removed by mods after the guy admitted it proudly in chat.
Edit: this isn't a new game setting it's quite old

The host still has every right to change the game settings. I am not speaking on whether it is a tricky move.. I am speaking without bias towards this move. However.. it is the job of the player who joins said game to make sure he/she agrees with all the game settings, including victory conditions.

Eshkruar nga W4R_MaChINE, 10.08.2016 at 23:33

Eshkruar nga Darth., 10.08.2016 at 23:30

Eshkruar nga W4R_MaChINE, 10.08.2016 at 23:27

Eshkruar nga Darth., 10.08.2016 at 23:25

Eshkruar nga W4R_MaChINE, 10.08.2016 at 23:17

Eshkruar nga Kraigg, 10.08.2016 at 22:58

Eshkruar nga W4R_MaChINE, 10.08.2016 at 22:30

Eshkruar nga Kraigg, 09.08.2016 at 01:56

As much as I appreciated when they (finally) got rid of mid-game duels, I still cant make sense of having this capture neutral feature for duels especially. I dare anyone to give me an example of a legit duel using capture neutral...
So Just fucking get rid of the possibility and stop giving tools to trolls, cause u know... trolls gonna troll

I think this feature can be very useful for very diverse games. i played a few games in my tenure here where the settings were set to capture and hold a random country. it was a 4 person FFA game. It wasn't the normal competitive style game, it was a more relaxed game mode, where walls and chaining units were set as priority to win.

"I still cant make sense of having this capture neutral feature for duels"
in my book, a duel with capture neutral isnt legit, ever

Perhaps because you are so use to the norm on atwar..? Or you just can't see yourself playing a duel like that? i think the same could be said for clovis' famous no expansion duels, or the famous malta/cyprus duels. These game modes were invented by players, and they offered variety and strategy in the gameplay. Admins implemented the game feature in question for variety. So that all vanilla gameplay won't get stale after long periods of time. Now am I saying this feature should stay in duel modes? We haven't got that far in our discussion. I am just saying that he used a legitimate feature in game. He did not deserve a ban, and an sp reduction. If players are upset with the feature they can speak with mods, and mods can then discuss the feature with the game admins.

A PLAYER CALLED RIEN A DIRE GOT THE BAN AND SP REDUCTION FOR PLAYING IN BEGINNER LOBBY AND FARMING NOOBS. KUMAR GOT AWAY. OMFG CAN YOU READ??!!

Even if he was not banned, it still speaks to players who consider this as cheating. You will see this a lot on forums. This can clear a lot of air around these newer game settings.

It wasn't cheating for the settings. It was cheating because he changed the settings in the last seconds before starting the game. Which is a shit move and which is why the duel was removed by mods after the guy admitted it proudly in chat.
Edit: this isn't a new game setting it's quite old

The host still has every right to change the game settings. I am not speaking on whether it is a tricky move.. I am speaking without bias towards this move. However.. it is the job of the player who joins said game to make sure he/she agrees with all the game settings, including victory conditions.

And he did at the start when it was the default victory condition. But Kumar/unnamed host changing it seconds before starting it is false advertising, it is a not the fault of the joiner but the narbiness of the host, and if you don't see that, then I don't see anyone joining a duel with you.

In conclusion:
1) W4r is trolling as usual
2) no ban or sp reduction for such yet to be offense (being a dick isnt punishable on atwar)
3) remove capture neutral for duels as every duel is part of a competition
4) play all ur stupid settings on 1v1, not duels
Cheers

Eshkruar nga Darth., 10.08.2016 at 23:38

Eshkruar nga W4R_MaChINE, 10.08.2016 at 23:33

Eshkruar nga Darth., 10.08.2016 at 23:30

Eshkruar nga W4R_MaChINE, 10.08.2016 at 23:27

Eshkruar nga Darth., 10.08.2016 at 23:25

Eshkruar nga W4R_MaChINE, 10.08.2016 at 23:17

Eshkruar nga Kraigg, 10.08.2016 at 22:58

Eshkruar nga W4R_MaChINE, 10.08.2016 at 22:30

Eshkruar nga Kraigg, 09.08.2016 at 01:56

As much as I appreciated when they (finally) got rid of mid-game duels, I still cant make sense of having this capture neutral feature for duels especially. I dare anyone to give me an example of a legit duel using capture neutral...
So Just fucking get rid of the possibility and stop giving tools to trolls, cause u know... trolls gonna troll

I think this feature can be very useful for very diverse games. i played a few games in my tenure here where the settings were set to capture and hold a random country. it was a 4 person FFA game. It wasn't the normal competitive style game, it was a more relaxed game mode, where walls and chaining units were set as priority to win.

"I still cant make sense of having this capture neutral feature for duels"
in my book, a duel with capture neutral isnt legit, ever

Perhaps because you are so use to the norm on atwar..? Or you just can't see yourself playing a duel like that? i think the same could be said for clovis' famous no expansion duels, or the famous malta/cyprus duels. These game modes were invented by players, and they offered variety and strategy in the gameplay. Admins implemented the game feature in question for variety. So that all vanilla gameplay won't get stale after long periods of time. Now am I saying this feature should stay in duel modes? We haven't got that far in our discussion. I am just saying that he used a legitimate feature in game. He did not deserve a ban, and an sp reduction. If players are upset with the feature they can speak with mods, and mods can then discuss the feature with the game admins.

A PLAYER CALLED RIEN A DIRE GOT THE BAN AND SP REDUCTION FOR PLAYING IN BEGINNER LOBBY AND FARMING NOOBS. KUMAR GOT AWAY. OMFG CAN YOU READ??!!

Even if he was not banned, it still speaks to players who consider this as cheating. You will see this a lot on forums. This can clear a lot of air around these newer game settings.

It wasn't cheating for the settings. It was cheating because he changed the settings in the last seconds before starting the game. Which is a shit move and which is why the duel was removed by mods after the guy admitted it proudly in chat.
Edit: this isn't a new game setting it's quite old

The host still has every right to change the game settings. I am not speaking on whether it is a tricky move.. I am speaking without bias towards this move. However.. it is the job of the player who joins said game to make sure he/she agrees with all the game settings, including victory conditions.

And he did at the start when it was the default victory condition. But Kumar/unnamed host changing it seconds before starting it is false advertising, it is a not the fault of the joiner but the narbiness of the host, and if you don't see that, then I don't see anyone joining a duel with you.

So he makes a game with default victory conditions, and decides to change them. I see no problem with this.
You claim false advertising. What was the title of the game?

Let's say I join a game that says "Duel". I join, I pick my color, and before I have a chance to check the settings the host starts the game. what should I do when the map loads? Should I pick my country and go on with the game and trust that the host wont screw me over? Or should I check the game settings to see what it is exactly that I just joined into? You claim that it is the "narbiness" of the host, but I say it is the idiocy of the player that joins said game. If you manage to check the game settings before the game loads the map, that is great. However you are not the host of that game. The host can change the settings without warning. It is on the player to make sure before the game actually starts that he/she agrees with the game settings.

Eshkruar nga Kraigg, 10.08.2016 at 23:39

In conclusion:
1) W4r is trolling as usual
2) no ban or sp reduction for such yet to be offense (being a dick isnt punishable on atwar)
3) remove capture neutral for duels as every duel is part of a competition
4) play all ur stupid settings on 1v1, not duels
Cheers

You claim I'm trolling when I'm giving a logical argument as to why this is not cheating. You may not agree because you are unable to think/or speak objectively.

Eshkruar nga W4R_MaChINE, 10.08.2016 at 23:44

Eshkruar nga Kraigg, 10.08.2016 at 23:39

In conclusion:
1) W4r is trolling as usual
2) no ban or sp reduction for such yet to be offense (being a dick isnt punishable on atwar)
3) remove capture neutral for duels as every duel is part of a competition
4) play all ur stupid settings on 1v1, not duels
Cheers

You claim I'm trolling when I'm giving a logical argument as to why this is not cheating. You may not agree because you are unable to think/or speak objectively.

nah dude u re just trying to act smart by avoiding to adtess the real issue
I ain t saying it is cheating I m saying it should be, pay attenttion to something else than ur own rhetoric for once

Eshkruar nga Kraigg, 10.08.2016 at 23:49

Eshkruar nga W4R_MaChINE, 10.08.2016 at 23:44

Eshkruar nga Kraigg, 10.08.2016 at 23:39

In conclusion:
1) W4r is trolling as usual
2) no ban or sp reduction for such yet to be offense (being a dick isnt punishable on atwar)
3) remove capture neutral for duels as every duel is part of a competition
4) play all ur stupid settings on 1v1, not duels
Cheers

You claim I'm trolling when I'm giving a logical argument as to why this is not cheating. You may not agree because you are unable to think/or speak objectively.

nah dude u re just trying to act smart by avoiding to adtess the real issue
I ain t saying it is cheating I m saying it should be, pay attenttion to something else than ur own rhetoric for once

Yes, I think you made it quite clear that you think it should be cheating. Congratulations. I am saying that is not cheating to those that consider it to be. Perhaps you should pay attention as well.

Of course going forward many alterations can be made to the game interface to combat this last second game settings change. But I don't see admins making any changes any time soon. So going forward from here.. As this is not an illegal move that breaks atwars rules, be careful going forward, and remember to check those game settings. That should be common sense

"You're trying to act smart" Yes, by giving a counter argument on a common topic, I'm trying to act smart and humiliate you all. Sure. Oh yeah, and I'm also trolling. Ok

Clovis and I have proposed a few options in another post regarding the same issue. But it seems they never really got around to the admins.

Eshkruar nga W4R_MaChINE, 10.08.2016 at 23:53

Eshkruar nga Kraigg, 10.08.2016 at 23:49

Eshkruar nga W4R_MaChINE, 10.08.2016 at 23:44

Eshkruar nga Kraigg, 10.08.2016 at 23:39

In conclusion:
1) W4r is trolling as usual
2) no ban or sp reduction for such yet to be offense (being a dick isnt punishable on atwar)
3) remove capture neutral for duels as every duel is part of a competition
4) play all ur stupid settings on 1v1, not duels
Cheers

You claim I'm trolling when I'm giving a logical argument as to why this is not cheating. You may not agree because you are unable to think/or speak objectively.

nah dude u re just trying to act smart by avoiding to adtess the real issue
I ain t saying it is cheating I m saying it should be, pay attenttion to something else than ur own rhetoric for once

Yes, I think you made it quite clear that you think it should be cheating. Congratulations. I am saying that is not cheating to those that consider it to be. Perhaps you should pay attention as well.

Of course going forward many alterations can be made to the game interface to combat this last second game settings change. But I don't see admins making any changes any time soon. So going forward from here.. As this is not an illegal move that breaks atwars rules, be careful going forward, and remember to check those game settings. That should be common sense

"You're trying to act smart" Yes, by giving a counter argument on a common topic, I'm trying to act smart and humiliate you all. Sure. Oh yeah, and I'm also trolling. Ok

dude we had the exact same argument a while ago and they changed the duel rules the way I suggested it, so it appears my logic is at least as sound as urs

now the argument about people should check game settings is a lot like telling rape victims they should have dressed less provocative, aka "blaming the victim"... people do that in Pakistan and stuff...
cheers

Eshkruar nga Kraigg, 11.08.2016 at 00:02

Eshkruar nga W4R_MaChINE, 10.08.2016 at 23:53

Eshkruar nga Kraigg, 10.08.2016 at 23:49

Eshkruar nga W4R_MaChINE, 10.08.2016 at 23:44

Eshkruar nga Kraigg, 10.08.2016 at 23:39

In conclusion:
1) W4r is trolling as usual
2) no ban or sp reduction for such yet to be offense (being a dick isnt punishable on atwar)
3) remove capture neutral for duels as every duel is part of a competition
4) play all ur stupid settings on 1v1, not duels
Cheers

You claim I'm trolling when I'm giving a logical argument as to why this is not cheating. You may not agree because you are unable to think/or speak objectively.

nah dude u re just trying to act smart by avoiding to adtess the real issue
I ain t saying it is cheating I m saying it should be, pay attenttion to something else than ur own rhetoric for once

Yes, I think you made it quite clear that you think it should be cheating. Congratulations. I am saying that is not cheating to those that consider it to be. Perhaps you should pay attention as well.

Of course going forward many alterations can be made to the game interface to combat this last second game settings change. But I don't see admins making any changes any time soon. So going forward from here.. As this is not an illegal move that breaks atwars rules, be careful going forward, and remember to check those game settings. That should be common sense

"You're trying to act smart" Yes, by giving a counter argument on a common topic, I'm trying to act smart and humiliate you all. Sure. Oh yeah, and I'm also trolling. Ok

dude we had the exact same argument a while ago and they changed the duel rules the way I suggested it, so it appears my logic is at least as sound as urs

now the argument about people should check game settings is a lot like telling rape victims they should have dressed less provocative, aka "blaming the victim"... people do that in Pakistan and stuff...
cheers

LOL What a stretch that was. That is not the same thing, not even close.

What change are you referring to?

Http://atwar-game.com/news/news.php?news_id=181

Eshkruar nga W4R_MaChINE, 10.08.2016 at 23:57

I can sum up your entire argument in 4 words: You. Don't. Have. One.

Eshkruar nga Darth., 09.08.2016 at 01:29

.

My bad.
I misunderstood and thought you were speaking about kumar.jeetsuper and not Rien.
I take back my first post in this thread.

Eshkruar nga W4R_MaChINE, 10.08.2016 at 23:44

You claim I'm trolling when I'm giving a logical argument as to why this is not cheating. You may not agree because you are unable to think/or speak objectively.

Well said

Tecnically you shouldn't be punished for using a feature that was intended.

There are many things that aren't ethically correct in the game, just like this, T1 wfs or taking advantage over a disconnection. As bad as they might sound the truth is that they are legit actions.

But having to specify what you can and can't do would'be impractical, as you don't know all the things you can do with a tool.

To fill that loophole mods should discuss the issue and give an official response or stance (which can be in the rules or in another thread, maybe even here) to avoid confusion between what's punishable and what's not. This type of cases are common enough to deserve a response, imo.

P.D: to my understanding it was ríen who got banned and lost half of his SP, not Kumar.

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 12.08.2016 at 18:16

Eshkruar nga W4R_MaChINE, 10.08.2016 at 23:44

You claim I'm trolling when I'm giving a logical argument as to why this is not cheating. You may not agree because you are unable to think/or speak objectively.

Well said

Tecnically you shouldn't be punished for using a feature that was intended.

There are many things that aren't ethically correct in the game, just like this, T1 wfs or taking advantage over a disconnection. As bad as they might sound the truth is that they are legit actions.

But having to specify what you can and can't do would'be impractical, as you don't know all the things you can do with a tool.

To fill that loophole mods should discuss the issue and give an official response or stance (which can be in the rules or in another thread, maybe even here) to avoid confusion between what's punishable and what's not. This type of cases are common enough to deserve a response, imo.

P.D: to my understanding it was ríen who got banned and lost half of his SP, not Kumar.

I think that admins should update the game setting interface; for example: sending a notification to the player who is not the host, explaining that the game settings were changed/victory settings. (This can be a very short -term option until the community/admins agree on a better fix)

Banning/ or issuing punishments for legitimate actions is 'putting a band-aid' on the overall problem. I have yet to see the updated tutorial; perhaps admins could update the tutorial to include an explanation on the various 'vanilla' game modes/game settings/ and victory conditions. It would educate players about the overall game as soon as they join.

To punish someone for using a legitimate in-game feature questions why the feature is even implemented in the game in the first place. Either remove the setting all together or figure a way to educate players of the games settings. However, if you choose the path of removing game features, because players are UN-knowledgeable of the games workings, IMO, game play would ever grow stale, and less innovation would persist. Of course there are custom games, that offer huge variation from standard at-war maps; but to update and innovate the standard atwar would be hugely beneficial to atwars community, and would entice more players to play this game.

IMO; with the addition of Custom Maps, and the lack of innovation on the standard atwar game by admins/ and moderators, there seems to be a lack of care for this game overall.
I think Admins chose the easy way out, by allowing players to dictate atwars maps. I will get a lot of heat for saying this; although I do agree this has led to a lot of map innovation, my counter point would be that if admins were to create/ and dictate atwars maps, they would tend to be more balanced, and filled with less bugs. More balanced maps = more competition, which we must not forget is what atwar is for. We must also remember that atwar is largely based on the game RISK. RISK is both a very fun, and very competitive game. More in-game competition, on more balanced maps may lead to a growth in player base, and could lead to a healthier game in the long term.

Well, these are just my opinions, and some may disagree with me on some points, but I think we can all agree that this game, as of right now, is. not. going. anywhere.. If more players leave atwar then are joining, you have a dead game

Eshkruar nga W4R_MaChINE, 12.08.2016 at 20:52

I think that admins

No.

If they can't deal with the map editor, you can be so damm sure that they wont have time for this. Rather look for a solution that doesn't requires them.