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09.09.2015 - 12:08
Since theFuehrer didnt want to agree with removal of that CW, I will need a support of community and mods so it can affect on Ivan/Amok to remove it.
Before reading, let me just mention that CW between Mortal Kombat and Cosa Nostra was removed by admins because of similiar reasons (2 seasons ago). I know cuz I participated in that cw.



I will tell the most detailed story about all those issues with a CW against Helghasts.
Im gonna be calmed down while typing this, cuz if nothing is going to be solved about this cw, I just dont see any single reason to stay here anymore.
So, I will write it in 3 paragraphs:
1. Before CW / Croats searching for CW
2. During CW / Gameplay and spectactors
3. End of CW / After CW

1. Before CW / Croat's searching for CW
- Since I was forum banned, I wasnt of forums these days and since I was studying, I wasnt online. When I finally came on, all I wanted was one CW. So, I searched for it (dat logic). I saw Victorious Secret and Illy are already playing so I decided to take a look on my friend list (!! remember, FRIEND list) to ask some guys for CW. All were busy, but not theFuehrer , so I thought 'Why not to ask him' and it was like this:
Croat: 'CW?'
He answered exactly this 'ok'
I made a CW, but he gone to play a duel against Plato. I told him I can give him some tips while playing if needed, because I was bored since no cw, expect waiting theFuehrer to end that duel.
Whole the game I was giving him tips and after duel ended, I asked that guy again:
Croat: 'dude can we CW now?'
theFuehrer: 'ok'
Croat: 'Come in I already made a game'
theFuehrer: 'I would rather duel, I need Elo'

I said on that just to start a CW faster that I am not playing duels this season and I will give him all Elo cuz I dont care about that, even from alts if needed, but I just begged him to come CW cuz he agreed twice. I told him clearly, if I win, my clan is going to be on 2nd place on the leaderboard, what is a big deal for me and for my clan which is on scene only for a month. It means to me, you know, and I am playing every CW with some adrenaline because this is first time that I am founder and main leader of some coalition, so logically, I want all best to my clan.
This is our chat, I was so impatient while waiting him in cw room:


2. During CW / Gameplay and spectactors
- Before picking, I asked him about 3 times I think (HOLY GRAIL CAN CONFIRM !!!), does he want 1v1, 2v2 or 3v3 CW ? Telling again, I asked him that 3 times. Everytime he said he wants 1v1. So, I accepted it.
We started picking.
He had first pick and took Germany.
I had 2nd pick and took UK. (I was NC)

1st turn:
Croat took Belgium and Norway (He killed mine 4 units in NL)

theFuehrer took NL and Danmark (I killed his 7 units in Norway)


2nd turn
Croat TBED NL, took Cologne (8 units) and Frankfurt (6 units) from Belgium and London (saved an reinf for a transport in 2nd turn) and took Munchen (10 units) + this city south from Berlin (4 units) with Norway stack and latemoved Danmark.

theFuehrer got TBED 9 units in NL (2 militia 7 infs), took Poland from Danmark and stacked Berlin.


Practically,
Croat had whole UK, Belgium, NL, Norway, Danmark, all Germany cities except Hamburg (0) and Berlin
and all that theFuehrer had was NL, Czech, Poland and only 2 cities in Germany (0 in Hamburg and Berlin)

3rd turn
Croat was good with connection but laggy, 1 min before end of the turn Croat disconnected.

the fuehrer makes all so he caps Croat and retakes some Germany cities

4th turn
Croat apologises for dc and asks for tie.

theFuehrer accepts with EXACTLY those words: 'ok but no rematch'

So Croat tells him to move his units from London so he can recap and after that turn tie.
About 7 or 8 times Croat explains to him: 'just move units out of London so I can recap, next turn tie'
theFuehrer: 'ok' and he moved his stack to the all UK cities and left 1 in London

5th turn (reinf turn)
Croat sent 9 infs on that 1 sea transport in London

But theFuehrer uses all reinfs from UK and puts all units in London. He had 69 units in London when Croat gone to recap himself, so obviously he used units from Germany or NL to stack London even more.

In the lasts seconds of CW, theFuehrer says: 'They told me to stack London, I cant undo'
All spectactors hoped he is kidding. 20 seconds till the end of turn.
theFuehrer: 'I cant undo, sorry'
I will say exactly words of dinoscout: 'Than refresh if you cannot undo'
No, he didnt refresh, he waited until turn ends.

Croat loses a CW.

3. END OF CW / AFTER CW

Logically, I was trying to know WHY he did that, but with caps lock on sometimes, you will understand me why.
I admit, I insulted him once after he said: 'Im going to gym now, we can talk later'
I told him: 'I will bomb it, better dont go'

That was my hardest 'insult' to him.

On the other side, take a look on his lies (firstly spam chat, secondly someone other told him to stack London, thirdly I tbed him (?!?!?!?!), fourthly it was a bug, fifth he didnt want to tell who told him to stack London with an excuse 'I have bad memory' ) while we were chatting what happened and why he did that miserable thing in CW:









1. I couldnt TB him because I attacked only that 1 sea trasnsport which was in London with 9 infs
2. It couldnt be a bug, because there is no any single explanation for that kind of bug '69 units spawned in London' lol wtf
3. Even if someone else trolled him and told him to stack London, he could use his brain, also I pmed him 10 times not to move anything cuz im recapping
4. Spam chat cannot whipe his brain out so he stacks 69 in London, if so than I really understand why his brain thinks that Earth is a flat. Its called chicken brain.
5. He told that he got bad memory to remember who told him to stack London.....................

Whatsmore, I got some profs of each spectactor and witness from our CW, so take a look:

STRIKO:


DINOSCOUT:



OPI:


PANTERI:




And for last there is a talk between striko and fuehrer in some 3v3 after this cw:


'SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH' like 'Earth is flat' or like 'stop talking that in public'




Now really, you can hate me or love me, but please, this time think as a player of this game.
I opened my clan before a month, I want it all best and I want this CW to be restored/removed/deleted, whatever.

I prohibited another CWs of Paradox until we solve this, so the amount of Elo is not being ruined. It will ruin after either Paradox, either Helghasts play another cw,
so I beg you too not to play a CW with Helghasts until we solve this.
Whatsmore, if you can support me as community or if mods can do that with affecting on Ivan and discussing about this, I would appreciate that as a person who gave really much of myself for this game, I know I abused either global, either forums sometimes, but still I gave my best for improvement of an atWar. Only thing I am searching for (back) is to solve this CW in a proper way, because this is just crap thing.
If no and if we are going to allow those kind of things done by some random narbs, I just wont deal with that anymore, this will be my last here.



Cheers,
Croat
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duke u karikuar...
duke u karikuar...
09.09.2015 - 12:12
 Eagle (moderator)
The same thing was done by panteri and opi vs me and don, 2 times we lost turns cause server changed, they capped us and ended turns
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duke u karikuar...
duke u karikuar...
09.09.2015 - 12:17
Eshkruar nga Eagle, 09.09.2015 at 12:12

The same thing was done by panteri and opi vs me and don, 2 times we lost turns cause server changed, they capped us and ended turns

Dude, we are now on Paradox vs. Helghasts case and I will give 101% of myself to prove that this is just crazy..
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duke u karikuar...
duke u karikuar...
09.09.2015 - 12:21
 Eagle (moderator)
Eshkruar nga Croat, 09.09.2015 at 12:17

Eshkruar nga Eagle, 09.09.2015 at 12:12

The same thing was done by panteri and opi vs me and don, 2 times we lost turns cause server changed, they capped us and ended turns

Dude, we are now on Paradox vs. Helghasts case and I will give 101% of myself to prove that this is just crazy..

I fully support for this to be erased, but it has be done before and there was no punishment for something like this happening
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duke u karikuar...
duke u karikuar...
09.09.2015 - 12:29
Eshkruar nga Eagle, 09.09.2015 at 12:21


I fully support for this to be erased, but it has be done before and there was no punishment for something like this happening


That is what I will fight for now.
We need changes because those kind of things are just killing a wish of any competitive player to compete anymore. For real, if I dont solve this, I am not seeing myself here in future. But I will give all of myself to prove (I can prove, mods already know all) that this kind of things are silly.

One bitching noob who is doing those disrespectfull things against me and my clan wants to keep his elo won on that way? No, not while im here.
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duke u karikuar...
duke u karikuar...
09.09.2015 - 12:45
Stryko
Llogaria u fshi
Yes, ban him.
duke u karikuar...
duke u karikuar...
09.09.2015 - 13:07
 opi
Eshkruar nga Eagle, 09.09.2015 at 12:12

The same thing was done by panteri and opi vs me and don, 2 times we lost turns cause server changed, they capped us and ended turns


we all lost turn and we were winning. we all kept playing and panteri opi "best cw team" won as always. ğğ ma boy

croat führer 1v1 cw remake ğğ
duke u karikuar...
duke u karikuar...
09.09.2015 - 13:26
Eshkruar nga opi, 09.09.2015 at 13:07

we all lost turn and we were winning. we all kept playing and panteri opi "best cw team" won as always. ğğ ma boy

croat führer 1v1 cw remake ğğ


No, only removal.

After I win cw, we still wont get amount of Elo that he has stolen, so I will accept only removal.
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duke u karikuar...
duke u karikuar...
09.09.2015 - 13:28
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Eshkruar nga Guest14502, 11.10.2014 at 09:44

Waffel for mod 2015
duke u karikuar...
duke u karikuar...
09.09.2015 - 13:30
You disconnected because I said I don't have a transport. I had a transport and captured your cap. GG.

You lost, get over it.
duke u karikuar...
duke u karikuar...
09.09.2015 - 13:32
Eshkruar nga Guest, 09.09.2015 at 12:45

Yes, ban him.


Ban me? What for? All i did was play... and beat him.
duke u karikuar...
duke u karikuar...
09.09.2015 - 13:33
Stryko
Llogaria u fshi
Eshkruar nga theFuehrer, 09.09.2015 at 13:32

Eshkruar nga Guest, 09.09.2015 at 12:45

Yes, ban him.


Ban me? What for? All i did was play... and beat him.

You sure you want this.
duke u karikuar...
duke u karikuar...
09.09.2015 - 13:38
Eshkruar nga theFuehrer, 09.09.2015 at 13:30

You disconnected because I said I don't have a transport. I had a transport and captured your cap. GG.

You lost, get over it.


not Earth is flat, but your brain........
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duke u karikuar...
duke u karikuar...
09.09.2015 - 13:39
Eshkruar nga Guest, 09.09.2015 at 13:33

Eshkruar nga theFuehrer, 09.09.2015 at 13:32

Eshkruar nga Guest, 09.09.2015 at 12:45

Yes, ban him.


Ban me? What for? All i did was play... and beat him.

You sure you want this.


Bring it buddy.
duke u karikuar...
duke u karikuar...
09.09.2015 - 13:42
I will say exactly what happened in game

Turn 1: I capture denmark, Netherlands, and Austria

Turn 2: I capture poland, break uk wall, defend my cities

Few turns later: Hit attacks failed and I then say in chat. I can't I don't have a transport unit. I was pretending I couldnt attack his cap. In fact I did have transport unit. Right when I said that, he disconnected. When he came back he had little time left. He begged me for tie, I agreed because I considered croat a nice guy.

Next turn: All my ports are blocked off with his walls. That angered me because I agreed with tie. I told him sorry Im gonn have to kill you now. He began to insult me. I stacked his cap. Game was over.

Clearly he was still fighting me since he walled off my ports

If you wish to argue againts that, so be it, it's the truth.
duke u karikuar...
duke u karikuar...
09.09.2015 - 13:43
Sometimes croat, you have to learn to lose and walk away with your head up high.

cheers.
duke u karikuar...
duke u karikuar...
09.09.2015 - 13:44
Eshkruar nga theFuehrer, 09.09.2015 at 13:42

I will say exactly what happened in game

Turn 1: I capture denmark, Netherlands, and Austria

Turn 2: I capture poland, break uk wall, defend my cities

Few turns later: Hit attacks failed and I then say in chat. I can't I don't have a transport unit. I was pretending I couldnt attack his cap. In fact I did have transport unit. Right when I said that, he disconnected. When he came back he had little time left. He begged me for tie, I agreed because I considered croat a nice guy.

Next turn: All my ports are blocked off with his walls. That angered me because I agreed with tie. I told him sorry Im gonn have to kill you now. He began to insult me. I stacked his cap. Game was over.

Clearly he was still fighting me since he walled off my ports

If you wish to argue againts that, so be it, it's the truth.


YES YES YES YES YES YES, I NEEDED THOSE LIES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I SENT A GAME SCREENSHOTS TO MODS,
AUSTRA WAS NEVER TAKEN, WAS NEUTRAL ALL THE TIME


YES, YOU JUST ENDED THIS DISCUSSION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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duke u karikuar...
duke u karikuar...
09.09.2015 - 13:46
Eshkruar nga Croat, 09.09.2015 at 13:44

Eshkruar nga theFuehrer, 09.09.2015 at 13:42

I will say exactly what happened in game

Turn 1: I capture denmark, Netherlands, and Austria

Turn 2: I capture poland, break uk wall, defend my cities

Few turns later: Hit attacks failed and I then say in chat. I can't I don't have a transport unit. I was pretending I couldnt attack his cap. In fact I did have transport unit. Right when I said that, he disconnected. When he came back he had little time left. He begged me for tie, I agreed because I considered croat a nice guy.

Next turn: All my ports are blocked off with his walls. That angered me because I agreed with tie. I told him sorry Im gonn have to kill you now. He began to insult me. I stacked his cap. Game was over.

Clearly he was still fighting me since he walled off my ports

If you wish to argue againts that, so be it, it's the truth.


YES YES YES YES YES YES, I NEEDED THOSE LIES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I SENT A GAME SCREENSHOTS TO MODS,
AUSTRA WAS NEVER TAKEN, WAS NEUTRAL ALL THE TIME


YES, YOU JUST ENDED THIS DISCUSSION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Maybe it wasn't, I don't recall. But I know I had something below germany. And I know you disconnected right when I said I dont have a transport... kinda like you wanted to make new moves... Hmm....

Using big words doesn't make you right......
duke u karikuar...
duke u karikuar...
09.09.2015 - 13:48
This is you lying again, those who believe you should reconsider.

duke u karikuar...
duke u karikuar...
09.09.2015 - 13:50
Eshkruar nga theFuehrer, 09.09.2015 at 13:46



Using big words doesn't make you right......


But my screenshots do



This one i shared in public just to prove your LIES.
Austria was never taken!!
All other Screenshots are seen by mods and sent to admins.

GG flat Earth
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duke u karikuar...
duke u karikuar...
09.09.2015 - 13:51
Stryko
Llogaria u fshi
You can read my clan chat if you want, it'll make more sense:

duke u karikuar...
duke u karikuar...
09.09.2015 - 13:51
Eshkruar nga Croat, 09.09.2015 at 13:50

Eshkruar nga theFuehrer, 09.09.2015 at 13:46



Using big words doesn't make you right......


But my screenshots do



This one i shared in public just to prove your LIES.
All other Screenshots are seen by mods and sent to admins.

GG flat Earth


That isn't proving anything.
duke u karikuar...
duke u karikuar...
09.09.2015 - 13:53
Eshkruar nga Guest, 09.09.2015 at 13:51

You can read my clan chat if you want, it'll make more sense:




What exactly is that proving? That I am winning? ok mate.
duke u karikuar...
duke u karikuar...
09.09.2015 - 13:53
Stryko
Llogaria u fshi
Phase 2: You pr'd me telling me "Should I kill him?" unfortunately I don't have any SS to prove this, so you can decide whether you wanna make yourself seem a fool infront of me or not.
I responded by copy and pasting the pr to game chat, because that was ridiculous.

I continued to shout, "no don't kill him, tie instead" but he didn't listen.

This is the behaviour which will kill the game, he essentially farmed ELO + SP. + CW Wins, he deserved triple the ban. But I'm nice so I just said one ban.
duke u karikuar...
duke u karikuar...
09.09.2015 - 13:54
Eshkruar nga theFuehrer, 09.09.2015 at 13:48

This is you lying again, those who believe you should reconsider.


I was reporting a coward, fucking is my buzzword. I sent your insults to mods by screenshot, so I couldnt lie anything.
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duke u karikuar...
duke u karikuar...
09.09.2015 - 13:54
Support for Croat, remove cw...
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http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=14714&topicsearch=&page=
duke u karikuar...
duke u karikuar...
09.09.2015 - 13:55
Eshkruar nga Guest, 09.09.2015 at 13:53

Phase 2: You pr'd me telling me "Should I kill him?" unfortunately I don't have any SS to prove this, so you can decide whether you wanna make yourself seem a fool infront of me or not.
I responded by copy and pasting the pr to game chat, because that was ridiculous.

I continued to shout, "no don't kill him, tie instead" but he didn't listen.

This is the behaviour which will kill the game, he essentially farmed ELO + SP. + CW Wins, he deserved triple the ban. But I'm nice so I just said one ban.



How exactly am I farming?
duke u karikuar...
duke u karikuar...
09.09.2015 - 13:56


This looks like a farm to me.
duke u karikuar...
duke u karikuar...
09.09.2015 - 13:57
Stryko
Llogaria u fshi
Eshkruar nga theFuehrer, 09.09.2015 at 13:53

Eshkruar nga Guest, 09.09.2015 at 13:51

You can read my clan chat if you want, it'll make more sense:

[img.]http://i.imgur.com/flfrEZh.jpg[/img]


What exactly is that proving? That I am winning? ok mate.


Are you getting afraid mate? It proves that the game was under 4 turns. Look at the SPs, and look at Croat's expansion, he had Norway. This was obviously meant to be a tied CW.
duke u karikuar...
duke u karikuar...
09.09.2015 - 13:59
Eshkruar nga Guest, 09.09.2015 at 13:57

Eshkruar nga theFuehrer, 09.09.2015 at 13:53

Eshkruar nga Guest, 09.09.2015 at 13:51

You can read my clan chat if you want, it'll make more sense:

[img.]http://i.imgur.com/flfrEZh.jpg[/img]


What exactly is that proving? That I am winning? ok mate.


Are you getting afraid mate? It proves that the game was under 4 turns. Look at the SPs, and look at Croat's expansion, he had Norway. This was obviously meant to be a tied CW.


I don't get afraid. You are wrong, again. Game was 6 turns long. I had good defense, which is why my SP is so high. Plus, croat lost a turn because he disconnected on purpose. How is that my fault.
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duke u karikuar...
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