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13.04.2016 - 15:45
Is it ok to move players from clan to clan by sun tzu and making clans for free (aristokrats).

Stop making all of us fools!

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13.04.2016 - 15:46
Well, it isn't against Atwar rules.
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13.04.2016 - 15:55
Ah you mean this http://prntscr.com/arwni7 and http://prntscr.com/arwn7x, he left Aristocrats today and instantly joined Noobs, without waiting 2 days (game rules). I thought you meant creating clan with alt.

I think it is ok once, but 100 times is exploiting the system, yes.
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13.04.2016 - 16:56
What's the problem? Just people won't join your clan?
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13.04.2016 - 17:33
Helping a player start a clan who has well more than enough sp anyway to start a clan is hardly making a fool of anyone. Helping the players to move their quicker to encourage more clan war activity is not letting players farm (the purpose of the 2 day restriction).
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13.04.2016 - 17:41
Eshkruar nga PleaseMe, 13.04.2016 at 16:56

What's the problem? Just people won't join your clan?


Problem is when you are in one clan, you play cw's for that clan. After three days, you decide to change clan, admin gives you option to change clan without waiting two days, what's in aw rules. You play clan wars for new clan for three days, and you again decide to change clan, and admin again gives you to break the rules, and you play cw's for the old clan again, all that in the same season..

We don't have problem if people won't join our clan, and I don't have a problem to lose 25 cw's in row, or to lose 24 elo in one game. Also, I play this game for fun and I don't care if someone tell me that I'm noob or something much worse, just because I kicked his ass. And I also think you have small dick, but is that related to this topic? And finally, is your post related with this topic?
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13.04.2016 - 18:25
Eshkruar nga Sun Tsu, 13.04.2016 at 17:33

Helping a player start a clan who has well more than enough sp anyway to start a clan is hardly making a fool of anyone. Helping the players to move their quicker to encourage more clan war activity is not letting players farm (the purpose of the 2 day restriction).


Hmmm maybe in this case we have elo farming.. As you can see, clan 1 (where player was) lost 5 times from clan 2 (new player's clan). Clan 1 played that 5 cw's even they were over ranked really bad. It's interesting to say that clan 1 didn't want to cw us when we had similar ranks (10-10-9 vs 11-10-10). Now, clan 2 is the first clan on the list. I don't care, just saying. (also 2nd clan is 2nd just because they categorically decline every cw where they can lose elo or when their best player is offline). Maybe there is space for boosting activity.. Also I think Mortal Kombat deserves at least 100 more elo then they have right now, but they are 6th clan just because some clans won't to play them.

Also, is this right way to boost cw activity? Your solution is to give some high rank players to play in 2 or more clans at the same time because you're good with them? I know really big number of players who want to play cw, but they are in bad financial situation or they are too young to buy premium and play competative games. (at least 2 just in mine clan) Also the big number of young players are suppresed by old ones who are maybe good with admins. That's why we have problem to find 8- rank players eager for cw. Competetive community is closed.. If one player plays in 3 clans, it's fake activity IMO.

And finally, why you allow yourself arrogance? If we all wait two days to change clan, why you need to make exception?
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13.04.2016 - 19:05
Eshkruar nga Bossko, 13.04.2016 at 17:41

Eshkruar nga PleaseMe, 13.04.2016 at 16:56

What's the problem? Just people won't join your clan?


Problem is when you are in one clan, you play cw's for that clan. After three days, you decide to change clan, admin gives you option to change clan without waiting two days, what's in aw rules. You play clan wars for new clan for three days, and you again decide to change clan, and admin again gives you to break the rules, and you play cw's for the old clan again, all that in the same season..

We don't have problem if people won't join our clan, and I don't have a problem to lose 25 cw's in row, or to lose 24 elo in one game. Also, I play this game for fun and I don't care if someone tell me that I'm noob or something much worse, just because I kicked his ass. And I also think you have small dick, but is that related to this topic? And finally, is your post related with this topic?

No I have big shlong. Muy grande!! B========D
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13.04.2016 - 23:46
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14.04.2016 - 01:45
Eshkruar nga Bossko, 13.04.2016 at 18:25

Eshkruar nga Sun Tsu, 13.04.2016 at 17:33

Helping a player start a clan who has well more than enough sp anyway to start a clan is hardly making a fool of anyone. Helping the players to move their quicker to encourage more clan war activity is not letting players farm (the purpose of the 2 day restriction).


Hmmm maybe in this case we have elo farming.. As you can see, clan 1 (where player was) lost 5 times from clan 2 (new player's clan). Clan 1 played that 5 cw's even they were over ranked really bad. It's interesting to say that clan 1 didn't want to cw us when we had similar ranks (10-10-9 vs 11-10-10). Now, clan 2 is the first clan on the list. I don't care, just saying. (also 2nd clan is 2nd just because they categorically decline every cw where they can lose elo or when their best player is offline). Maybe there is space for boosting activity.. Also I think Mortal Kombat deserves at least 100 more elo then they have right now, but they are 6th clan just because some clans won't to play them.

Also, is this right way to boost cw activity? Your solution is to give some high rank players to play in 2 or more clans at the same time because you're good with them? I know really big number of players who want to play cw, but they are in bad financial situation or they are too young to buy premium and play competative games. (at least 2 just in mine clan) Also the big number of young players are suppresed by old ones who are maybe good with admins. That's why we have problem to find 8- rank players eager for cw. Competetive community is closed.. If one player plays in 3 clans, it's fake activity IMO.

And finally, why you allow yourself arrogance? If we all wait two days to change clan, why you need to make exception?


Well this has always been done before I was an admin and always will, no farming took place. Have a nice day.
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14.04.2016 - 02:43
Eshkruar nga Sun Tsu, 14.04.2016 at 01:45


Well this has always been done before I was an admin and always will, no farming took place. Have a nice day.


Oops, there is one difference. If that was happening before, that was without admins or mods permission. And if that was happening and that was bad, why that justify your behavior? (logical error found ) And I'm young player, but I can't remmember when 1 player joined 3 clans in one day?

You didn't answer me on all questions, you just tried to pull your ass out from this situation. You know I always support good actions that you made, but this was rude, this was misuse, and I explained you why.
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14.04.2016 - 03:45
Eshkruar nga Sun Tsu, 14.04.2016 at 03:28

Eshkruar nga Bossko, 14.04.2016 at 02:43

Eshkruar nga Sun Tsu, 14.04.2016 at 01:45


Well this has always been done before I was an admin and always will, no farming took place. Have a nice day.


Oops, there is one difference. If that was happening before, that was without admins or mods permission. And if that was happening and that was bad, why that justify your behavior? (logical error found ) And I'm young player, but I can't remmember when 1 player joined 3 clans in one day?

You didn't answer me on all questions, you just tried to pull your ass out from this situation. You know I always support good actions that you made, but this was rude, this was misuse, and I explained you why.

It was done by Ivan before me and he told me how to do it. As I said moving ferr to one of those clans was a mistake 'hence the 3 clans', please read the posts. Pulling my ads out of the situation? Piss off, I have nothing to hide.


Eshkruar nga Skanderbeg, 13.04.2016 at 15:55

Ah you mean this http://prntscr.com/arwni7 and http://prntscr.com/arwn7x, he left Aristocrats today and instantly joined Noobs, without waiting 2 days (game rules). I thought you meant creating clan with alt.

I think it is ok once, but 100 times is exploiting the system, yes.


As Modfather said, once is ok, but more then that is rude. He told you how to do it, but he forgot to tell you that you can't behave like 12 year old child and misuse this option like 50 times. If he moves from clan to clan 1 time is ok, but first he moves from Cosa Nostra to RD, then from RD to Underdogs, after that in Noobs and after in Aristokrates and (omg) by a mistake again in Noobs (where he played 1 or 2 cw's) and again in No Name. Sorry because I raped word again.

That is 5 times intended and 1 time by a mistake. All that in one fucking season?
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14.04.2016 - 03:52
Eshkruar nga Bossko, 14.04.2016 at 03:45

Eshkruar nga Sun Tsu, 14.04.2016 at 03:28

Eshkruar nga Bossko, 14.04.2016 at 02:43

Eshkruar nga Sun Tsu, 14.04.2016 at 01:45


Well this has always been done before I was an admin and always will, no farming took place. Have a nice day.


Oops, there is one difference. If that was happening before, that was without admins or mods permission. And if that was happening and that was bad, why that justify your behavior? (logical error found ) And I'm young player, but I can't remmember when 1 player joined 3 clans in one day?

You didn't answer me on all questions, you just tried to pull your ass out from this situation. You know I always support good actions that you made, but this was rude, this was misuse, and I explained you why.

It was done by Ivan before me and he told me how to do it. As I said moving ferr to one of those clans was a mistake 'hence the 3 clans', please read the posts. Pulling my ads out of the situation? Piss off, I have nothing to hide.


Eshkruar nga Skanderbeg, 13.04.2016 at 15:55

Ah you mean this http://prntscr.com/arwni7 and http://prntscr.com/arwn7x, he left Aristocrats today and instantly joined Noobs, without waiting 2 days (game rules). I thought you meant creating clan with alt.

I think it is ok once, but 100 times is exploiting the system, yes.


As Modfather sais, once is ok, but more then that is rude. He told you how to do it, but he forgot to tell you that you can't behave like 12 year old child and misuse this option like 50 times. If he moves from clan to clan 1 time is ok, but first he moves from Cosa Nostra to RD, then from RD to Underdogs, after that in Noobs and after in Aristokrates and (omg) by a mistake again in Noobs (where he played 1 or 2 cw's) and again in No Name. Sorry because I raped word again. That is 5 times intended and 1 time by a mistake. All that in one fucking season?

I have said all I will say. Everything I done is in the genuine interest of the game to help cw activity not to help my friends. You are welcome to believe what you like.
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14.04.2016 - 04:00
The people will judge! And maybe Ivan, if someone explains situation to him.
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14.04.2016 - 05:26
Eshkruar nga Bossko, 14.04.2016 at 04:00

The people will judge! And maybe Ivan, if someone explains situation to him.

As you wish, have fun.
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14.04.2016 - 05:37
Eshkruar nga Sun Tsu, 14.04.2016 at 05:26

Eshkruar nga Bossko, 14.04.2016 at 04:00

The people will judge! And maybe Ivan, if someone explains situation to him.

As you wish, have fun.

lol I hope you found that post as a joke
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14.04.2016 - 05:54
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Well sun didn't do anything wrong and be sure he will do the same to you if you ask him
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14.04.2016 - 07:10
Too much dust was risen because of this thing..

Actually, admins have been doing this since ever, all you needed to send them was a nice and gently description how and why you dont want a to wait for 2 more days to join certain coalition.
Ivan has been doing the same thing, plenty if times.

Also, I am sure non of us on competitive scene is here to produce some 'farming industry clans', especially not someone as Ferlucci.
By knowing him probably more than any of you, I can sworn he would never do such thing.
And how the hell he could do farming clans for himself when he made a coalition and raped more of you in 10 days then the rest of you did in whole season. In fact, he farmed you, on proper way (cws).

As for Sun, if you gently ask him to do a favour for you, I am sure he would do it, independently of what you search from him.. Even couple of times if needed, as he did for Ferlucci. Stop being such a jerks who act like animals and catch on everything they think its enough for making noise and spitting on someone..and all because of his good wish.
I am sure every of you would do same on his position, as the rest of admins were doing too.

So focus on more important things for you and your clan than 'omg ferlucci changed clan 3 times without waiting 2 days' ...
LIKE WTF, 48 hours would do such a difference, wow wow wow
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14.04.2016 - 08:42
CRY MORE!
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14.04.2016 - 08:45
Put ferr in chains!

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14.04.2016 - 09:08
I understand the frustration of seeing a player join multiple clans in the same day.....but when you think about it there really is no issue there. As has been stated many times the changing clans rule is simply there to prevent farming, it is a good rule and I think it is necessary to restrict farming so I don't want to see it changed. Fer's choice to change clans has been for his own different reasons and there is no farm taking place, so case closed.

However, I also understand the "unfairness" of how it seems certain players get special treatment. But this also seems to be false. As Sun has stated he is willing to help any player out with this, and guys. this game is small enough that an Admin can safely monitor players who could be farming while helping dedicated players join clans faster and bypass anti farming rules. That is one of the advantages to a smaller player size is having admins who know players and can help them out. Also as Croat has pointed out this has been done by Ivan many times. Personally I have always waited the two days to join a new clan, and am glad to hear the option exists to speed that process up when I change clans in the future.

Support Sun, and lets try as a community not to make issues where none exist.

P.S
Aristokrats would have formed with or without Sun, and as I said I waited the two days before joining so its not like he just waved a magic wand to help form this clan. And I think I read somewhere of us being accused of farming? Funny considering the clan claiming that also was refusing to CW us last night, and like either Bosko or Mantis said, RD is one of the most active clans so if anything it hurts the competitive scene the most when active clans just choose not to CW other clans because they do not like them.
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14.04.2016 - 10:09
I support sun. There is nothing wrong with an admin who stays involved with the community and especially when no farming rules have been broken.
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14.04.2016 - 13:10
Eshkruar nga Prometheus, 14.04.2016 at 09:08



P.S
Aristokrats would have formed with or without Sun, and as I said I waited the two days before joining so its not like he just waved a magic wand to help form this clan. And I think I read somewhere of us being accused of farming? Funny considering the clan claiming that also was refusing to CW us last night, and like either Bosko or Mantis said, RD is one of the most active clans so if anything it hurts the competitive scene the most when active clans just choose not to CW other clans because they do not like them.


You didnt gave me a tie when danijel dced that is whay we dont cw with you. With ranks 12+ you dont need dcs to win.
Btw all high ranks in 1 clan isnt helping cw scene.

As bossko said it is not a problem to lose 13 in a row but i dont want to lose elo becouse bad net.
Just say to Sun to move 3 in a new clan and play with them, if dc eazy win.
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14.04.2016 - 13:22
Eshkruar nga Ferlucci1389, 14.04.2016 at 08:42

CRY MORE!


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14.04.2016 - 13:28
Eshkruar nga mantis..., 14.04.2016 at 13:10

Eshkruar nga Prometheus, 14.04.2016 at 09:08



P.S
Aristokrats would have formed with or without Sun, and as I said I waited the two days before joining so its not like he just waved a magic wand to help form this clan. And I think I read somewhere of us being accused of farming? Funny considering the clan claiming that also was refusing to CW us last night, and like either Bosko or Mantis said, RD is one of the most active clans so if anything it hurts the competitive scene the most when active clans just choose not to CW other clans because they do not like them.


You didnt gave me a tie when danijel dced that is whay we dont cw with you. With ranks 12+ you dont need dcs to win.
Btw all high ranks in 1 clan isnt helping cw scene.

As bossko said it is not a problem to lose 13 in a row but i dont want to lose elo becouse bad net.
Just say to Sun to move 3 in a new clan and play with them, if dc eazy win.



Hey Mantis thanks for responding,
Yeah I get being frustrated with not tying when there was a DC, it was not my decision but I do support the choice in that CW to not tie. Because Danijel had blitz rushed UKR from turk and Opi had perfect expansion against it so realistically it seemed east was over. Also west was winning when we realized he had dced, so in that circumstance I think it was fair to not tie. But I respect your opinion that we should have tied, seems this is a recurring issue when a tie should or should not be given. And I think all clans have been guilty of not giving a tie at some point so hopefully we can move past it and keep playing games. Because like I said to you when we talked the other night, it would be a shame to not CW because of one game. Especially since I like the way RD plays anyone regardless of ranks, much respect.

As for Aristokrats being stacked with high ranks, well there are only 5 of us in the clan right now, and i'm not exactly a high rank. I think I have played in 5 out of the last 6 CW or something like that, so its not like we are playing lots of outmatched games. Also personally I think once you are rank 9-10 ranks no longer matter at all.
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14.04.2016 - 13:41
Eshkruar nga Prometheus, 14.04.2016 at 13:28

Eshkruar nga mantis..., 14.04.2016 at 13:10

Eshkruar nga Prometheus, 14.04.2016 at 09:08



P.S
Aristokrats would have formed with or without Sun, and as I said I waited the two days before joining so its not like he just waved a magic wand to help form this clan. And I think I read somewhere of us being accused of farming? Funny considering the clan claiming that also was refusing to CW us last night, and like either Bosko or Mantis said, RD is one of the most active clans so if anything it hurts the competitive scene the most when active clans just choose not to CW other clans because they do not like them.


You didnt gave me a tie when danijel dced that is whay we dont cw with you. With ranks 12+ you dont need dcs to win.
Btw all high ranks in 1 clan isnt helping cw scene.

As bossko said it is not a problem to lose 13 in a row but i dont want to lose elo becouse bad net.
Just say to Sun to move 3 in a new clan and play with them, if dc eazy win.



Hey Mantis thanks for responding,
Yeah I get being frustrated with not tying when there was a DC, it was not my decision but I do support the choice in that CW to not tie. Because Danijel had blitz rushed UKR from turk and Opi had perfect expansion against it so realistically it seemed east was over. Also west was winning when we realized he had dced, so in that circumstance I think it was fair to not tie. But I respect your opinion that we should have tied, seems this is a recurring issue when a tie should or should not be given. And I think all clans have been guilty of not giving a tie at some point so hopefully we can move past it and keep playing games. Because like I said to you when we talked the other night, it would be a shame to not CW because of one game. Especially since I like the way RD plays anyone regardless of ranks, much respect.

As for Aristokrats being stacked with high ranks, well there are only 5 of us in the clan right now, and i'm not exactly a high rank. I think I have played in 5 out of the last 6 CW or something like that, so its not like we are playing lots of outmatched games. Also personally I think once you are rank 9-10 ranks no longer matter at all.


1. nice respond ty.

In a tie always someone is in a better position.
RD had never deced when losing (we balkans have cheap net).

We dont ask for ranks that is irelevent.

You have my respect
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14.04.2016 - 14:43
Eshkruar nga Prometheus, 14.04.2016 at 13:28

Because Danijel had blitz rushed UKR from turk and Opi had perfect expansion against it so realistically it seemed east was over. Also west was winning when we realized he had dced, so in that circumstance I think it was fair to not tie.


You all are always winning when someone's dc....


"omg, I had less money and income but next turn I was going to rush you and you wouldn't defend anyway. Fuck off there was no chance you would win".

Not my game, and indeed not going to argue over the clan jump issue but this type of behavior (assuming victory before the game ends) seriously need to stop. Even having advantage isn't a given win so you can't use it as justification to not tie (unless your former name is Mecoy).

don't believe me >>》check the evidence.

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 23.04.2015 at 22:14

Eshkruar nga Acquiesce, 17.04.2015 at 18:18

Illy will usually tie. Unless game is obviously lost or you are behaving like a prick.


I think game is never obvious lost until the game confirmed the other person as dead. if you don't believe me then ask Laochra.




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14.04.2016 - 15:03
citoj:
Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 14.04.2016 at 14:43




(unless your former name is Mecoy).


Hehehe, never tie for fake DC's.
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14.04.2016 - 17:11
Stop crying noob
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15.04.2016 - 06:50
No it's not ok,no name and few other guys defend ferl,just because it was ferl.

EQUAL RULES FOR EVERYONE
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