Why aren't you vegan yet?

Cows diseases are too dangerous and need constant monitoring. For example aphthae epizooticae was vitally common in Britian for almost 50 years because farmers have hidden sick animels from the authorities or tried to kill them on their own so they don't execute the whole bunch around them instead of just the sick one. And that's soft one. You can't get rid of antrax even if you burn it or freeze it it will just remain in the ground until it find subscrut. Cows should either be jailed or genocided.

As for letting sheeps if we just set them free they will arrive cities and then there will be too many Albanians in the world.

Also I'm too lazy to eat vegtebales and such an high demand for agricultural land will cause more wars.

There's nothing wrong with eating animal products in moderation. Factory farming is evil though.

Fuck u boywind

Eshkruar nga Guest, 23.11.2018 at 10:06

Fuck u boywind

It's a hard pill to swallow, but the truth is many people (myself included) don't care about the treatment of animals we consume. It still tastes like a steak happy or sad.

Factory farming is cruel but isn't it necessary? If all the animals have happy lives before they died, wouldn't that take up much more resources than before? If not then i'm down for getting rid of factory farming.

It is a personal choice. However, one of the harshest things i've heard, but can't disagree - is that killing a conscious entity for personal pleasure (it 'tastes' better) is wrong.

Literally every plant in the world - produces oxygen which is essence to our survival.
Cow - eats grass and takes big shit that destroys ozone layer

Vegan = Increased pollution

Instead of being vegans, how about you help us in saving the Earth by killing cows you selfish pricks?
checkmate gg no re

Eshkruar nga Sid, 23.11.2018 at 10:57

It's a hard pill to swallow, but the truth is many people (myself included) don't care about the treatment of animals we consume. It still tastes like a steak happy or sad.

Factory farming is cruel but isn't it necessary? If all the animals have happy lives before they died, wouldn't that take up much more resources than before? If not then i'm down for getting rid of factory farming.

imagine a vegan activist today telling all this "i dont eat meat because of the way it was treated when it was alive" to people 100 years ago. i think hed be put in a mental institution

broccoli is best

Eshkruar nga Sid, 23.11.2018 at 10:57

It's a hard pill to swallow, but the truth is many people (myself included) don't care about the treatment of animals we consume. It still tastes like a steak happy or sad.

Hypothetical: A hyperintelligent alien species visits earth and is trying to decide whether or not to turn you into a human porkchop. These aliens don't need to eat you to survive but to them you taste delicious. These aliens are also very logical and reasonable beings, you could even call them fair. Do you have an argument you can present to them as to why you should not be eaten?

Eshkruar nga Acquiesce, 23.11.2018 at 14:21

Eshkruar nga Sid, 23.11.2018 at 10:57

It's a hard pill to swallow, but the truth is many people (myself included) don't care about the treatment of animals we consume. It still tastes like a steak happy or sad.

Hypothetical: A hyperintelligent alien species visits earth and is trying to decide whether or not to turn you into a human porkchop. These aliens don't need to eat you to survive but to them you taste delicious. These aliens are also very logical and reasonable beings, you could even call them fair. Do you have an argument you can present to them as to why you should not be eaten?

You tell the alien this same paradox

Eshkruar nga Acquiesce, 23.11.2018 at 14:21

Hypothetical: A hyperintelligent alien species visits earth and is trying to decide whether or not to turn you into a human porkchop. These aliens don't need to eat you to survive but to them you taste delicious. These aliens are also very logical and reasonable beings, you could even call them fair. Do you have an argument you can present to them as to why you should not be eaten?

Nope. Thats because morality is simply rationalized emotions. We don't eat other people because we'd feel bad about it, some societies have different feelings, because they evolved differently and they do have cannibalism.

Eshkruar nga Tirpitz406, 23.11.2018 at 14:27

Nope. Thats because morality is simply rationalized emotions. We don't eat other people because we'd feel bad about it, some societies have different feelings, because they evolved differently and they do have cannibalism.

Gtfo with that gay moral relativism shit
Boring

Eshkruar nga Acquiesce, 23.11.2018 at 14:21

Eshkruar nga Sid, 23.11.2018 at 10:57

It's a hard pill to swallow, but the truth is many people (myself included) don't care about the treatment of animals we consume. It still tastes like a steak happy or sad.

Hypothetical: A hyperintelligent alien species visits earth and is trying to decide whether or not to turn you into a human porkchop. These aliens don't need to eat you to survive but to them you taste delicious. These aliens are also very logical and reasonable beings, you could even call them fair. Do you have an argument you can present to them as to why you should not be eaten?

Ethic of Reciprocity: I suspect this is a universal understanding. Tell them they can eat the cannibals, but as the other earthlings respect (or at least try) sentience, it would be an unreciprocated free will violation.

Ethic of Non-Interference [Star Trek]: While the name of this principal has been fictionalized, most people here agree that non-interference is a value held by those with wisdom.

When in Rome (i.e. adopt the customs and traditions of the host): As they are visitors, it would be best they follow our customs and traditions. If earthlings come to the alien planet, and eating humans is part of that culture, then we are fair game.

Eshkruar nga Steve Aoki, 23.11.2018 at 12:48

Literally every plant in the world - produces oxygen which is essence to our survival.
Cow - eats grass and takes big shit that destroys ozone layer

Vegan = Increased pollution

Instead of being vegans, how about you help us in saving the Earth by killing cows you selfish pricks?
checkmate gg no re

Somebody has zero understanding of economics.

Eshkruar nga Acquiesce, 23.11.2018 at 14:21

Eshkruar nga Sid, 23.11.2018 at 10:57

It's a hard pill to swallow, but the truth is many people (myself included) don't care about the treatment of animals we consume. It still tastes like a steak happy or sad.

Hypothetical: A hyperintelligent alien species visits earth and is trying to decide whether or not to turn you into a human porkchop. These aliens don't need to eat you to survive but to them you taste delicious. These aliens are also very logical and reasonable beings, you could even call them fair. Do you have an argument you can present to them as to why you should not be eaten?

Nope, If an alien was advanced enough that they could travel here from far away then to them we'd be nothing more than the ants we see on the ground. At the end of the day we arent so different from the animals we eat, they all have complex societies and so fourth. To an Alien we'd probably be nothing more than less hairy apes.

Eshkruar nga Acquiesce, 23.11.2018 at 14:21

Eshkruar nga Sid, 23.11.2018 at 10:57

It's a hard pill to swallow, but the truth is many people (myself included) don't care about the treatment of animals we consume. It still tastes like a steak happy or sad.

Hypothetical: A hyperintelligent alien species visits earth and is trying to decide whether or not to turn you into a human porkchop. These aliens don't need to eat you to survive but to them you taste delicious. These aliens are also very logical and reasonable beings, you could even call them fair. Do you have an argument you can present to them as to why you should not be eaten?

I don't have a single good reason why they shouldn't eat me, not like it would be my choice either way i suppose.

I bet i taste good, too bad i'm on the hairy side.

In 100 years, factory farms will be talked about the same way that slavery is talked about today. Billions of sentient animals (cows and pigs are actually just as intelligent/aware as dogs and cats) are farmed and slaughtered every year for meat, just as millions of slaves were enslaved and forced to work to death. Though animals are not the same as humans, they can still feel suffering. Artificial meat will at least spare animals in the future from the hell that's been brought on them by people

The truth is that if a meteor or an asteroid capable of wiping out life on Earth was on a collision course with the Earth; cows and chickens aren't going to do shit about it.

Humans are the only species on the planet that can mitigate the disaster and if we feel like eating some meat, we should damn well be allowed to.

Eshkruar nga Rock Lee, 23.11.2018 at 08:31

Cows diseases are too dangerous and need constant monitoring. For example aphthae epizooticae was vitally common in Britian for almost 50 years because farmers have hidden sick animels from the authorities or tried to kill them on their own so they don't execute the whole bunch around them instead of just the sick one. And that's soft one. You can't get rid of antrax even if you burn it or freeze it it will just remain in the ground until it find subscrut. Cows should either be jailed or genocided.

As for letting sheeps if we just set them free they will arrive cities and then there will be too many Albanians in the world.

as usual humanist gets it wrong = cull mankind not all the other fauna/flora/fungi(not fauna/flora)

Eshkruar nga Ludditez, 23.11.2018 at 18:44

as usual humanist gets it wrong = cull mankind not all the other fauna/flora/fungi(not fauna/flora)

That was a troll comment. Obviously human treatment is the source of agricultural diseases coming from animel (stress, density, genetic revision, exhuastion and etc).

Eshkruar nga Rock Lee, 23.11.2018 at 18:48

Eshkruar nga Ludditez, 23.11.2018 at 18:44

as usual humanist gets it wrong = cull mankind not all the other fauna/flora/fungi(not fauna/flora)

That was a troll comment. Obviously human treatment is the source of agricultural diseases coming from animel (stress, density, genetic revision, exhuastion and etc).

indeed.
i still stand by my post = cull people not anything else

Eshkruar nga Ludditez, 23.11.2018 at 19:08

indeed.
i still stand by my post = cull people not anything else

It does feel like many things are getting out of hand and people don't even have a direction or idea what they wish to do. Maybe it's time to form modern kind of religion or something. On the other hand its the free will and independence that allows most humans to choose direction in their lives and help the world advance instead of working all day or obey closed systems even if most of us choose to be passive. Or maybe it's just proper education that people are missing/tuning out.

It's governments that prevent the mass of people having any real choice(left/center/right irrelevant)
as long as the masses believe they have freedom things will not change.

Why is it morally okay to kill animals?

Eshkruar nga boywind2, 23.11.2018 at 22:57

Why is it morally okay to kill animals?

Are you aware the fact that earth capability to produce food is declining? You can't get enough appropiate land to be use utilize and swamps that were used last century as fetilizers sources are already dull at this point. Nowdays they produce fetilizers for greenhouses mainly from coconuts basalt and cows leaves. And it plays as one of the greatest contributers to air pollution and ozone depletion.

I'm not saying you should'nt be senstive about it or should'nt pity anmiel. I worked for 4 years with chickens cows and sheeps and therefore I endhavour to limit myself to fish only except in special occasions or times when I really needed energy as soldier. But one of virutes of morals is honesty and restricting ourselves so badly will force people tens of extra hours amonth to get food and nations to war for agricultural soil. So yeah caging animels is terrible thing and in clear conflict with the human necessity to preserve the sense of liberty and compassion among ourselves. But as it sounds wrong to keep eating animel because of theory or idea it is wrong to starve ourselves or leave other humans without nothing due to intuation.

Eshkruar nga boywind2, 23.11.2018 at 22:57

Why is it morally okay to kill animals?

You can't convince these brainy individuals who don't believe in morality that it's morally wrong to kill animals. The first part is necessary for the second part. What you can do is make eating animals unfashionable, expensive, or otherwise socially prohibitive.