Adog's Guide to Rankism :D

"Wow, I completely misread what adog say before support him. Now let me look for a way to manipulate the words, so somehow they agrees with me " ~Thunder.

"CLOVIS IS IN THIS POST? OMG REMOVE CLOVIS ***Post without read***" ~Thunder.

"Statements? All I know is that I am contradicting clovis" ~Thunder.

" Who cares about adog and ranks, I support whatever is against clovis" ~Thunder.

"Fuck logic. Remove clovis" ~Thunder.

" I agree with you. Who cares, just REMOVE KEBAB" ~SerbianBall about your opinion.



"ok, let argue. Is a fact that the sky is red....

(Some pages later....)

LOL I clarify now: I was referring to the sky in mars." ~Thunder.

" Clovis not only defeat but also destroyed me. I am desperated. Better start insulting and using caps, so this topic get locked and nobody else see me losing" ~Thunder

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 10.11.2014 at 10:22

"Wow, I completery misread what adog say before support him. Now let me look for a way to manipulate the words, so somehow they agrees with me " ~Thunder.

" CLOVIS IS IN THIS POST? OMG REMOVE CLOVIS ***Post without read***" ~Thunder.

"Statements? All I know is that I am contradicting clovis" ~Thunder.

" Who cares about adog and ranks, I support whatever is against clovis" ~Thunder.

"Fuck logic" ~Thunder.

Tell me, where did i said that i support adog? You are contradicting yourself, even in the lame topic that you made to make fun of my "logic" you arrived to a conclusion that contradicted your argument.

You have failed to address my statements, is Crystal clear that you can't reply to them without admitting that you are wrong

Wtf is wrong with you people. All I have to say. Please everyone use logic and debate it carefully.

I just hate when people edit their posts after i quote them, and don't even notify us that they did.
Clovis is using a strawman fallacies, because he can't properly answer my questions.

Tell us clovis, what requirement did the people in your 2nd list meet, besides being rank 10?

Where did i said that i supported all of adogs arguments?

You claimed that rank doesn't matter at all, yet you already accepted that games played affect experience. High ranks have more games than low ranks, therefore more experience.

I claimed that turns played is a more accurate way to measure experience and ranks. I provided you with evidence supporting this claim. Its a fact that turns played are related to ranks.


I have agreed that there is exceptions, but they are few
I claimed that short games like duels affect the data, and provided you with evidence for that.
I claimed premium has an effect too, and provided you with my opinion about it.

You claimed my data is wrong, can you prove rank is not affected by turns played? No you can't, a rank 10 has more turns played than a rank 6-0

You always compare ranks 10 to ranks 10 to "prove" ranks don't matter, but you never compare ranks 10 to ranks 1-5s why?

When ask to test the theory of high ranks vs low ranks, you never choose random people, you always pick bad high ranks and good low ranks (specially trained by high ranks)

You also never explained why there is not a single low rank clan, getting first place.

Or why low ranks don't train other low ranks, or why high ranks are the ones that always end up training people.


Why all atwar guides so far are made by high ranks?

You also ignored my claim, that tutoring a player, makes the test bias.

You also assume that the people that become rank 10, don't learn anything in the progress.

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 10.11.2014 at 10:22

"Wow, I completely misread what adog say before support him. Now let me look for a way to manipulate the words, so somehow they agrees with me " ~Thunder.

"CLOVIS IS IN THIS POST? OMG REMOVE CLOVIS ***Post without read***" ~Thunder.

"Statements? All I know is that I am contradicting clovis" ~Thunder.

" Who cares about adog and ranks, I support whatever is against clovis" ~Thunder.

"Fuck logic. Remove clovis" ~Thunder.

" I agree with you. Who cares, just REMOVE KEBAB" ~SerbianBall about your opinion.

It's Tunder, not Thunder, silly

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 10.11.2014 at 10:22

"Wow, I completely misread what adog say before support him. Now let me look for a way to manipulate the words, so somehow they agrees with me " ~Thunder.

"CLOVIS IS IN THIS POST? OMG REMOVE CLOVIS ***Post without read***" ~Thunder.

"Statements? All I know is that I am contradicting clovis" ~Thunder.

" Who cares about adog and ranks, I support whatever is against clovis" ~Thunder.

"Fuck logic. Remove clovis" ~Thunder.

" I agree with you. Who cares, just REMOVE KEBAB" ~SerbianBall about your opinion.



"ok, let argue. Is a fact that the sky is red....

(Some pages later....)

LOL I clarify now: I was referring to the sky in mars." ~Thunder.

" Clovis not only defeat but also destroyed me. I am desperated. Better start insulting and using caps, so this topic get locked and nobody else see me losing" ~Thunder

Ad hominem

Eshkruar nga Guest, 10.11.2014 at 23:39

Ad hominem

Ad hominem = insults.

I only made one direct insult, at the start of page 3 when I was already tired. BUT:

Eshkruar nga Tundy, 07.11.2014 at 17:06

No, he didn't
Your argument is stupid

Eshkruar nga Tundy, 07.11.2014 at 18:01

You clearly have shitty english skills, i said " YOUR ARGUMENT". Not "YOU"
Wow, this is why we can't have nice things

Eshkruar nga Tundy, 08.11.2014 at 11:39

Idk what the fuck you are talking about, everybody but you knows that i won the argument about high ranks vs low ranks, you said ranks didn't matter, if ranks don't matter why we don't see clans made out by ranks 1-5 defeating illyria or syndicate? The reason such clans don't exist is because ranks matter.

In this topic i support jaredbs argument, <the one that you couldn't read because you got butthurt.
I provided some examples that support his argument , while proving that your english skills are shit.

Eshkruar nga Tundy, 08.11.2014 at 19:53

In other words, you know you are full of shit, and don't want me to call you out.

Eshkruar nga Tundy, 09.11.2014 at 19:31

Facts are true statements, you can't disprove a fact, idiot.

New thunder logic:

"I know that you, death and witcher are actually rank 11. I also know than you specify the comparion as "other" type of players. I am also awared that you didnt incluides this on your stat, but made a logical conclusion using the random data( This of couse excluiding it from the main data). But damm, I can do nothing more than go off-topic or insult. So since most people wont even read, I will just say they are random rank 10. People will think I am refering to his first group since they know that the second group is filled up more rank 11 than rank 10. AND OF COUSE, I WILL KEEP SAYDING YOU IGNORED MY CLAIM, SO I CAN PROVE SOMENTHING!!!!!" ~Tunder.

" I also love when people agrees without read...~RussiaBall about your statement.

Making false quotes to make someone look dumb is something I count as ad hominem.

And funny you do the EXACT same thing instead of ACTUALLY DEBATING

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 08.11.2014 at 19:58

Thunder, you had failed providing us proof. And what is more, you are starting to insult me. Nice bad words are you by any chance trying to get this locked?

I provide you the proof. I didnt choosed it. I just went to the players tab and search for the top 5 rank 10 players by SP. Yet you see how in your own statics you skipped over 20 players.

Why you skipped the players from 50 to 63? Why didnt you incluide players from 70?

You didnt because The Communist (50) and Stryko (51) cleary goes against your "fact". In the other side you didnt incluide Mortals (63) or bluecher2 (70) .You only want to show what you want, why no show it completely? Because you know you are wrong, but dont want nobody to see: You are excluiding all the fails on purpose.

Nice censore on your own argument. Nice manipulation of statics.

Anyway, I am done with you.

And nice mind manipulation it seems...

@Black Shark , please dont try to charge the definition of Ad hominen. You can have your own and cound whatever you want as it, but dont try to generalize it.

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 11.11.2014 at 03:36

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 08.11.2014 at 19:58

Thunder, you had failed providing us proof. And what is more, you are starting to insult me. Nice bad words are you by any chance trying to get this locked?

I provide you the proof. I didnt choosed it. I just went to the players tab and search for the top 5 rank 10 players by SP. Yet you see how in your own statics you skipped over 20 players.

Why you skipped the players from 50 to 63? Why didnt you incluide players from 70?

You didnt because The Communist (50) and Stryko (51) cleary goes against your "fact". In the other side you didnt incluide Mortals (63) or bluecher2 (70) .You only want to show what you want, why no show it completely? Because you know you are wrong, but dont want nobody to see: You are excluiding all the fails on purpose.

Nice censore on your own argument. Nice manipulation of statics.

Anyway, I am done with you.

And nice mind manipulation it seems...

@Black Shark , please dont try to charge the definition of Ad hominen. You can have your own and cound whatever you want as it, but dont try to generalize it.

I don't see how making someone look dumb is not insulting that perosn, you're not even debating

Eshkruar nga Tundy, 10.11.2014 at 14:44

I just hate when people edit their posts after i quote them, and don't even notify us that they did.
Clovis is using a strawman fallacies, because he can't properly answer my questions.

Tell us clovis, what requirement did the people in your 2nd list meet, besides being rank 10?

Where did i said that i supported all of adogs arguments?

You claimed that rank doesn't matter at all, yet you already accepted that games played affect experience. High ranks have more games than low ranks, therefore more experience.

I claimed that turns played is a more accurate way to measure experience and ranks. I provided you with evidence supporting this claim. Its a fact that turns played are related to ranks.


I have agreed that there is exceptions, but they are few
I claimed that short games like duels affect the data, and provided you with evidence for that.
I claimed premium has an effect too, and provided you with my opinion about it.

You claimed my data is wrong, can you prove rank is not affected by turns played? No you can't, a rank 10 has more turns played than a rank 6-0

You always compare ranks 10 to ranks 10 to "prove" ranks don't matter, but you never compare ranks 10 to ranks 1-5s why?

When ask to test the theory of high ranks vs low ranks, you never choose random people, you always pick bad high ranks and good low ranks (specially trained by high ranks)

You also never explained why there is not a single low rank clan, getting first place.

Or why low ranks don't train other low ranks, or why high ranks are the ones that always end up training people.


Why all atwar guides so far are made by high ranks?

You also ignored my claim, that tutoring a player, makes the test bias.

You also assume that the people that become rank 10, don't learn anything in the progress.

Clovis, stop ignoring this, You keep posting strawman fallacies.
You know your 2nd list is completely random and you were talking out of your ass lol admit it

Eshkruar nga Guest, 11.11.2014 at 05:05

I don't see how making someone look dumb is not insulting that perosn, you're not even debating

I am not making him look dumb... he is making himself look dumb.

Did I say " Tunder you are dumb" ?

But of couse, different opinions. As I said, you can think whatever you want about somenthing. Your mind is free. So is my mind. But when it comes to generalize, my jokes are just for show how bad constructed are tunder's logic.

btw a new one:

" CLOVIS PLEASE PLAY ATTENTION TO ME THANKS YOU" ~Tunder.

> I never related experience with skills. I say game played is "A GOOD ( in other words, ~80%)" indicator of experience. I also say experience is related to knowledge. But never with skills.

Tell me tunder.. You have the experience of being afk for about 3 turns. How can you relate this experience with skills? HUEHUEHUE

Of couse, experience makes skills. But there is not a direct relation. There are other factors to be taken into account (Player capacity, for example.)

> I also pointed the forums as a source of experience, somenthing in which you either ignored or disagree in the first pages. As I said, a rank 7 which know how to use the forum and had read specialized guides is better than a rank 10 which dont even know that the game have a forum.

OH WAIT INB4

Tunder: That is an extreme chase. All than contradict me is an extreme chase.

I dont even need to recompilate data for secure you this: I can get more than 10 players rank 9 or higher which doesnt know how to use forums.

> Keep talking about my second group please. Dont worry, you can claim all you want so I can laugh at it.

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 11.11.2014 at 03:07

New thunder logic:

"I know that you, death and witcher are actually rank 11. I also know than you specify the comparion as "other" type of players. I am also awared that you didnt incluides this on your stat, but made a logical conclusion using the random data( This of couse excluiding it from the main data). But damm, I can do nothing more than go off-topic or insult. So since most people wont even read, I will just say they are random rank 10. People will think I am refering to his first group since they know that the second group is filled up more rank 11 than rank 10. AND OF COUSE, I WILL KEEP SAYDING YOU IGNORED MY CLAIM, SO I CAN PROVE SOMENTHING!!!!!" ~Tunder.

> Claim that you never supported what adog say

> Ignored my two claims, asking you for clarify your opinion.

citoj:

citoj:

When a person do somenthing and you call his job stupid, you are calling himself stupid.

Since when rank mean experience? Since when rank show skills?

ok you learn by playing, but since when forum does not contain experience? Cant forum boost up your learning experience?

Since you are countering my argument with some noob comparions I should assume either you are in the side of adog or just came to this threat for troll me.

If the second part then I suggest you to stop replying and bringing this to off-topic.

why do you always assume people are trolling you? or that go off-topic? why do you think you are always right?
your conclusion has already been proven to be wrong, you are just ignoring it, we already had a discussion about ranks and you know how that turned out

In a debate, if you ignore a statement its because its true and you don't wanna admit it.

citoj:

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 08.11.2014 at 08:45

Eshkruar nga Tundy, 07.11.2014 at 19:59

why do you always assume people are trolling you? or that go off-topic? why do you think you are always right?
your conclusion has already been proven to be wrong, you are just ignoring it, we already had a discussion about ranks and you know how that turned out

In a debate, if you ignore a statement its because its true and you don't wanna admit it.

So yeah, you post a comparion without express a point.

Then you come and say " I never say this".

Sorry, pick a side and pick it clearn. You say my argument is wrong? you havent even made an argument.

You call that comparion an argument? You didnt even related it to the point, nor got a conclusion related to the point. Therefore, it is incomplete.

I warned you. Next plz dont go and say " I didnt say this" or " I didnt agree to this". Since you are against me, I am assuming you are supporting all than adog say. Dont cover out.

Idk what the fuck you are talking about, everybody but you knows that i won the argument about high ranks vs low ranks, you said ranks didn't matter, if ranks don't matter why we don't see clans made out by ranks 1-5 defeating illyria or syndicate? The reason such clans don't exist is because ranks matter.

In this topic i support jaredbs argument, <the one that you couldn't read because you got butthurt.
I provided some examples that support his argument , while proving that your english skills are shit.

Wanna know why you ignored them? because:

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 10.11.2014 at 10:22

"Wow, I completely misread what adog say before support him. Now let me look for a way to manipulate the words, so somehow they agrees with me " ~Thunder.

"CLOVIS IS IN THIS POST? OMG REMOVE CLOVIS ***Post without read***" ~Thunder.

"Statements? All I know is that I am contradicting clovis" ~Thunder.

" Who cares about adog and ranks, I support whatever is against clovis" ~Thunder.

"Fuck logic. Remove clovis" ~Thunder.

" I agree with you. Who cares, just REMOVE KEBAB" ~SerbianBall about your opinion.

>And even now keep posting. Please do us a favor and go to page 1.

citoj:

I claimed premium has an effect too, and provided you with my opinion about it.

XAXAXAXAXA

citoj:

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 08.11.2014 at 12:59

" No premium? Well since they dont get 10% SP discount and they usually dont have for buy SP boost, I think they are not a very good group for incluide in my data. Anyway clovis already proves mscastro (42) and The communist (50, now 48) to disagree with my state. So I am simply removing them from my data! So I dont have to justify why they vary too much. ANYWAY, WHO CARES ABOUT NON PREMIUM"

This is basic knowledge dude, when you perform an experiment, is essential to have the least amount of variables, in order to have an accurate result.

Nice "opinion" if we can even call it. I wonder if someone appart from you believe this is not an attempt for manipulate data.



> There is no clan made by low ranks.
> There is no low rank training another low rank.

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 10.11.2014 at 10:22

"ok, let argue. Is a fact that the sky is red....

(Some pages later....)

LOL I clarify now: I was referring to the sky in mars." ~Thunder.

Some reply later:

> LOL I was refering to a competitive clan. MoU and evoL does not count because I clarify than high rank mean from rank 1 upward.

But if you know in which rank mou made evoL...

>LOL I was refering to a competitive clan. MoU and evoL does not count because I clarify than high rank mean from x rank upward

Where x = the rank where mou created evoL.

> LOL I was refering low rank teaching advances concepts. And of couse I also know than there are some exeptions.

And bla... I am too lazy for answer the other.

So please learn to argue and stop shouting for attention. You are making youself look bad.

And of couse, how can we ignore: You obvious my iron test. I havent see you beating the lowranks yet.

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 11.11.2014 at 17:47

Eshkruar nga Guest, 11.11.2014 at 05:05

I don't see how making someone look dumb is not insulting that perosn, you're not even debating

I am not making him look dumb... he is making himself look dumb.

Did I say " Tunder you are dumb" ?

But of couse, different opinions. As I said, you can think whatever you want about somenthing. Your mind is free. So is my mind. But when it comes to generalize, my jokes are just for show how bad constructed are tunder's logic.

My arguments don't look dumb at all, you turn my arguments into a cartoon form of itself in order to make it look weak and then proceed to attack it with ad-hominems when i am not even talking about that stuff and you don't even address the premise. this is called a strawman fallacy

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 11.11.2014 at 17:47

btw a new one:

" CLOVIS PLEASE PLAY ATTENTION TO ME THANKS YOU" ~Tunder.

> I never related experience with skills. I say game played is "A GOOD ( in other words, ~80%)" indicator of experience. I also say experience is related to knowledge. But never with skills.

nobody is talking about skills, this just shows that either you don't read properly or that you didn't understand my response and i must dumb it down for somebody like you to understand

Saying that rank is a good indicator of experience, means that rank does matter.

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 11.11.2014 at 17:47

Tell me tunder.. You have the experience of being afk for about 3 turns. How can you relate this experience with skills? HUEHUEHUE

Of couse, experience makes skills. But there is not a direct relation. There are other factors to be taken into account (Player capacity, for example.)

> I also pointed the forums as a source of experience, somenthing in which you either ignored or disagree in the first pages. As I said, a rank 7 which know how to use the forum and had read specialized guides is better than a rank 10 which dont even know that the game have a forum.

Dude, i already answer this^
it looks that you ignore it like always, go back and read my response, i posted it 3 times.
So i will stand with this: In a debate, if you ignore a statement its because its true and you don't wanna admit it.

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 11.11.2014 at 17:47

Tunder: That is an extreme chase. All than contradict me is an extreme chase.

I dont even need to recompilate data for secure you this: I can get more than 10 players rank 9 or higher which doesnt know how to use forums.

i can get a nearly infinite number of low ranks that don't know the forum event exists.
but this has nothing to do with high rank vs low rank, so your statement is irrelevant

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 11.11.2014 at 17:47

> Keep talking about my second group please. Dont worry, you can claim all you want so I can laugh at it.

You are ignoring my question regarding your 2nd list, you ignored it 3 times. saying that i didn't address it is a lie
So i will stand with this: In a debate, if you ignore a statement its because its true and you don't wanna admit it.

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 11.11.2014 at 03:07

New thunder logic:



> Claim that you never supported what adog say

> Ignored my two claims, asking you for clarify your opinion.

Plz quote me (this is the 3rd time i ask) of were i supported adog's argument? oh wait, you can't, because u are lying.
So i will stand with this: In a debate, if you ignore a statement its because its true and you don't wanna admit it.






Plz adress this:
> There is no clan made by low ranks kicking illyria or mortal kombat ass
> There is no low rank training another low rank.

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 11.11.2014 at 17:47

> LOL I was refering to a competitive clan. MoU and evoL does not count because I clarify than high rank mean from rank 1 upward.

But if you know in which rank mou made evoL...

>LOL I was refering to a competitive clan. MoU and evoL does not count because I clarify than high rank mean from x rank upward

Where x = the rank where mou created evoL.

> LOL I was refering low rank teaching advances concepts. And of couse I also know than there are some exeptions.

And bla... I am too lazy for answer the other.

So please learn to argue and stop shouting for attention. You are making youself look bad.

And of couse, how can we ignore: You obvious my iron test. I havent see you beating the lowranks yet.

If you think MoU as a low rank had evoL as the best clan in atwar, you are totally retarded
MoU got his ass kicked over a 100 times before becoming one of the best players, he had the skill but not the experience needed at the time, as he played more games(turns) he obtained experience and ranked up in the progress. Neither MoU or EvoL started as pro, and didn't become so until late-stages

Clovis, i am not gonna make a test of myself killing low ranks to prove a point, its beyond stupid, and even if i did you would accuse me of being bias and picking noobs. but if you are so eager about it, let me pick a random rank 1 from begginers room and if i beat him you delete your acc ;P

Oh god.... Tunder away scarecrowing and manipulating what he want.

> FOR LOLS, STOP BEING ******* (word skipped for avoid ad hominem) THEY ARE NOT EVEN RANK 10, YOU ARE MAKING YOUSELF LOOK BAD.

STOP CLARIFICATING THE SAME, I PUT THEM APPART AS OTHER PLAYERS. YOUR OBVIOUS CLARIFICATION PROVES NOTHING BUT WHAT I ALREADY CLARIFIED.

YOU KEEP SAYDING THEY ARE RANK 10 ARE JUST MAKING YOUSELF LOOK (word skipped). 3 OF 5 ARE RANK 11. STOP TRYING TO CONFUSE THEM WITH MY FIRST GROUP, YOU ARE WRONG.

MY FIRST DATA PROVES YOUR FACT IS WRONG. THERE IS NO DIRECT RELATION BETWEEN TURNS AND RANK.

MY SECOND DATA WAS RANDOM, YET IT PROVES THAN DEATH HAVE MORE SP AND TURNS BUT GOBLIN STILL HAVE MORE GAMES. AND FOR WHAT I KNOW, GOBLIN IS BETTER THAN DEAT.

> No premium? Inflation.
>Duels? Inflation.
>Someone who contradict me? Inflation.
> Players from 50 to 63 like stryko? Inflation.
> RP? inflation.

AND STOP, JESUS, NOBODY TRUST 99% INFLATION SO JUST STOP, YOU ARE WRONG.

ok Nice rage. Time to laugh again at your logic:

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 11.11.2014 at 03:07

"I know that you, death and witcher are actually rank 11. I also know than you specify the comparion as "other" type of players. I am also awared that you didnt incluides this on your stat, but made a logical conclusion using the random data( This of couse excluiding it from the main data). But damm, I can do nothing more than go off-topic or insult. So since most people wont even read, I will just say they are random rank 10. People will think I am refering to his first group since they know that the second group is filled up more rank 11 than rank 10. AND OF COUSE, I WILL KEEP SAYDING YOU IGNORED MY CLAIM, SO I CAN PROVE SOMENTHING!!!!!" ~Tunder.

" I also love when people agrees without read...~RussiaBall about your statement.

> Nobody is talking about skills.....

Nice manipulating of data. Sorry but I can prove you support adog:

citoj:

Since you are countering my argument with some noob comparions I should assume either you are in the side of adog or just came to this threat for troll me.

This was your reply: Ignoring the clarification.

Eshkruar nga Tundy, 07.11.2014 at 19:59

why do you always assume people are trolling you? or that go off-topic? why do you think you are always right?
your conclusion has already been proven to be wrong, you are just ignoring it, we already had a discussion about ranks and you know how that turned out

In a debate, if you ignore a statement its because its true and you don't wanna admit it.

And this was my reply to you: Clarify or I will assume that you support adog.

citoj:

I warned you. Next plz dont go and say " I didnt say this" or " I didnt agree to this". Since you are against me, I am assuming you are supporting all than adog say. Dont cover out.

And yet know what? YOU IGNORE!!!!

citoj:

Idk what the fuck you are talking about, everybody but you knows that i won the argument about high ranks vs low ranks, you said ranks didn't matter, if ranks don't matter why we don't see clans made out by ranks 1-5 defeating illyria or syndicate? The reason such clans don't exist is because ranks matter.


In this topic i support jaredbs argument, <the one that you couldn't read because you got butthurt.
I provided some examples that support his argument , while proving that your english skills are shit.

Clarification 1: Since you are countering me with noob comparion I should either assume you are in the side of adog or just came to this threat for troll me.

Answer ( If we can even consider it as one): why do you always assume people are trolling you? or that go off-topic? why do you think you are always right?

Does it answer the clarification? NO. You completely ignored it, going for attack me in my second setence.

Clarification 2: I warned you. Next plz dont go and say " I didnt say this" or " I didnt agree to this". Since you are against me, I am assuming you are supporting all than adog say. Dont cover out.

Answer (If we can even consider this as one): In this topic i support jaredbs argument, <the one that you couldn't read because you got butthurt.

Does it makes the clarification? NO. Again, ignoring my question about adog and going to talk about jared's argument.

Therefore, since I warned you, my claim is true. You support adog.

OH WAIT INB4:

Tunder: I say I support what jared say omg that is a valid answer because jared didnt talk about skills.

Tunder logic be like:

Clarification: Are you going to buy this car?
Tunder: I dont have money
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tunder's conclusion: He wont buy the car
Real conclusion: He dont have money.

Does it answer the question? NO. The man can have money in his credict card, or call a friend for lend him money, or go to a bank.
Sorry but:

But WAIT TUNDER MASTER OF CLARIFICATION:

"Tunder: Well I forgot to clarify. Now I want to manipulate the words so let just say I forgot to write my clafication.

What I mean and now I clarify, is no, I dont support adog. I only support jared."

XAXAXAXAXA Guess what, Jared support adog too! And jared also talks about skills!

Eshkruar nga Quantum027, 07.11.2014 at 11:31

we are just telling you that you are clearly wrong, its obvious that rank is an indicator of a respectable amount of skill, sure its not

Eshkruar nga Quantum027, 07.11.2014 at 11:31

citoj:

YOU REACHED RANK 10 CONGRATZ NOW YOU HAVE 1000 SKILL

but the rank means a lot more than just some badge, it is important and right now its the best way to determine someones skill in the game other than their playing. so stop being an illiterate idiot and learn some english.

Guess what: Both adog and jared support rank as an indicator of skills!!!

You are wrong. Your lack of reading made you support whatever is against me:

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 10.11.2014 at 10:22

"Wow, I completely misread what adog say before support him. Now let me look for a way to manipulate the words, so somehow they agrees with me " ~Thunder.

"CLOVIS IS IN THIS POST? OMG REMOVE CLOVIS ***Post without read***" ~Thunder.

"Statements? All I know is that I am contradicting clovis" ~Thunder.

" Who cares about adog and ranks, I support whatever is against clovis" ~Thunder.

"Fuck logic. Remove clovis" ~Thunder.

" I agree with you. Who cares, just REMOVE KEBAB" ~SerbianBall about your opinion.

Just for bump in a new one:


"Tunder: I think I am going to enter to the vault
Police: Dont enter there, or we will take you as a criminal
Tunder: ***Ignoring the police, and entering to the vault***
Police: We warned you ***Taking tunder with a handcuff , and leaving him in the police***

(Later on...)
Tunder: OMG YOU CANNOT PROVE I DID SOMENTHING, I AM NOT A CRIMINAL!!!


> Your next claims are just for scarecrow rank 1 vs rank 10, again, totally ignoring my argument that knowledge and skills matter.

"Tunder:ok, time to argue. Is a fact than high rank will beat low rank.

(Your response some reply later)

Tunder: unless the low rank is trained, which is unfair because the high rank got no train.

And since the low rank was trained, I will conclude somehow that rank matter. "



"Tunder:ok, time to argue. Is a fact than there is no clan made by low rank
(some reply laters)
Tunder: LOL I was refering to a clan that was made competitive without any high rank member. MoU does not count because in his times evoL was noob. Plaetorians does not count because either ancient is not competitive or now I clarify rank 8 as high rank. SM does not count because there were many high ranks. And everything else is just an inflation. "

"Tunder:ok, time to argue. Is a fact that there is no low rank training another low rank

> A rank 3 teachs his friends how to wall
> hyabusarider carrying on the "Shadow Me" project, for teach low ranks http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=16392

Tunder: That is an inflation. Everything that contradicts me is an inflation. And dont worry now I consider rank 3 as high rank. Hyabusaider rank 7 is also a high rank.

OR

Tunder: I was talking about advance concepts like bug exploit, cost-efficiently and ect. If any lowrank know how to bug then he does not count because is an inflation.... "

Clovis please learn english before participating on things which are way above your head.
Maybe you'll do a favour to AW.

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 12.11.2014 at 07:42

Eshkruar nga Waffel, 12.11.2014 at 07:39

Clovis please learn english before participating on things which are way above your head.
Maybe you'll do a favour to AW.

Maybe you stop bringing this to off-topic? Where is your agument?

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 10.11.2014 at 10:22

"Meh I dont care about the arguments. Let just insult clovis " ~Waffel.

"CLOVIS IS IN THIS POST? OMG REMOVE CLOVIS ***Post without read***" ~Waffel.

"Statements? All I know is that I am contradicting clovis" ~Waffel.

" Who cares about adog and ranks, I support whatever is against clovis" ~Waffel.

"Fuck logic. Remove clovis" ~Waffel.

" I agree with you. Who cares, just REMOVE KEBAB" ~SerbianBall about your opinion.

Lol? You come in every thread I comment with ''ignore waffel '' ''thumbup''
Please close your goofy mouth and get lost of this game.
You are the one who doesn't understand any word of english and mistakes 9 of the 10 times -.-
you have proved that point in my thread, in this thread, and many many MANY others.
So instead of bitching about that on tunder, work on your self. Thanks.
Also maybe you want to join Squirrels though, i heard thats a great clan to become mod!

People need to learn to quote already.seriously its almost fucking 2015..

Eshkruar nga Khal.eesi, 12.11.2014 at 10:13

People need to learn to quote already.seriously its almost fucking 2015..

Lovely avatar, when u gonna put preggo chick so we can be avatar buddies?

Eshkruar nga Waffel, 12.11.2014 at 13:14

Eshkruar nga Khal.eesi, 12.11.2014 at 10:13

People need to learn to quote already.seriously its almost fucking 2015..

Lovely avatar, when u gonna put preggo chick so we can be avatar buddies?

not my kinda fetish baby sorry.i think ill stick with britney thx

Eshkruar nga Khal.eesi, 12.11.2014 at 14:03

Eshkruar nga Waffel, 12.11.2014 at 13:14

Eshkruar nga Khal.eesi, 12.11.2014 at 10:13

People need to learn to quote already.seriously its almost fucking 2015..

Lovely avatar, when u gonna put preggo chick so we can be avatar buddies?

not my kinda fetish baby sorry.i think ill stick with britney thx

kk time to ignore forever and deleted from friendlist and my signature and my heart and unrepped

Eshkruar nga Waffel, 12.11.2014 at 13:14

Eshkruar nga Khal.eesi, 12.11.2014 at 10:13

People need to learn to quote already.seriously its almost fucking 2015..

Lovely avatar, when u gonna put preggo chick so we can be avatar buddies?

You both very sexy

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 12.11.2014 at 07:18

*Random shit*

Clovis, please just summarise your arguement and post it. I am sick & tired of hearing your useless random monotony of insults to Tunder. What is your arguement?

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 12.11.2014 at 17:47

Eshkruar nga Professor Adog, 12.11.2014 at 17:11

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 12.11.2014 at 07:18

*Random shit*

Clovis, please just summarise your arguement and post it. I am sick & tired of hearing your useless random monotony of insults to Tunder. What is your arguement?

No. Try asking again on a more humanized way.

So you don't have any logical arguements? That's what I thought, now leave this post troll.

Eshkruar nga Professor Adog, 12.11.2014 at 17:50

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 12.11.2014 at 17:47

Eshkruar nga Professor Adog, 12.11.2014 at 17:11

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 12.11.2014 at 07:18

*Random shit*

Clovis, please just summarise your arguement and post it. I am sick & tired of hearing your useless random monotony of insults to Tunder. What is your arguement?

No. Try asking again on a more humanized way.

So you don't have any logical arguements? That's what I thought, now leave this post troll.

Sorry, no food for you adog.

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 12.11.2014 at 17:52

Eshkruar nga Professor Adog, 12.11.2014 at 17:50

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 12.11.2014 at 17:47

Eshkruar nga Professor Adog, 12.11.2014 at 17:11

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 12.11.2014 at 07:18

*Random shit*

Clovis, please just summarise your arguement and post it. I am sick & tired of hearing your useless random monotony of insults to Tunder. What is your arguement?

No. Try asking again on a more humanized way.

So you don't have any logical arguements? That's what I thought, now leave this post troll.

Sorry, no food for you adog.

> I am the troll. Clovis, there is a reason why we call you a troll, because when asked to explain, you cannot.

Eshkruar nga Professor Adog, 12.11.2014 at 17:53

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 12.11.2014 at 17:52

Eshkruar nga Professor Adog, 12.11.2014 at 17:50

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 12.11.2014 at 17:47

Eshkruar nga Professor Adog, 12.11.2014 at 17:11

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 12.11.2014 at 07:18

*Random shit*

Clovis, please just summarise your arguement and post it. I am sick & tired of hearing your useless random monotony of insults to Tunder. What is your arguement?

No. Try asking again on a more humanized way.

So you don't have any logical arguements? That's what I thought, now leave this post troll.

Sorry, no food for you adog.

> I am the troll. Clovis, there is a reason why we call you a troll, because when asked to explain, you cannot.

There is a difference between polite ask for explain and insult, and you did the second one. Keep trying please.

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 12.11.2014 at 17:53

There is a difference between ask for explain and insult, and you did the second one. Keep trying please.

Sometimes I think you have issues

Eshkruar nga Professor Adog, 12.11.2014 at 17:11

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 12.11.2014 at 07:18

*Random shit*

Clovis, please just summarise your arguement and post it. I am sick & tired of hearing your useless random monotony of insults to Tunder. What is your arguement?

question right here

Conclusion: You have no arguement. Tunder was right, you are just a troll.

Conclusion: You cannot argue as an human.

Eshkruar nga clovis1122, 12.11.2014 at 18:46

Conclusion: You cannot argue as an human.

Omg not mod anymore

:/

It's ok I will still love you

pls reply xox