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postuar nga Aetius, 22.08.2016 - 10:29
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Ok I am officially ending the game, sorry that there will be no Grand Finale. None of the Triumvirs except Sertorius wanted civil war. However, the other two guys got absurdly angry at me. One has even blocked me, and imo has begun to take this game way too personally. I don't want to lose friends over a forum game, this is literally the only reason why I am now stopping. Also, a good lesson as to why you keep IC and OOC separate. ....Although in a way I see it as a success I got people to be this emotionally invested in a forum game

gg all, let us now remember the great legends of the roman families

Triumvir Families - these 3 have reached the apex of power, although shared
Gens Sertorii
The Sertorii are an old and powerful family that has been influential in politics and later on in war against the Numidians, Parthians and were regarded as superior naval commanders. They have had 6 consulships, numerous prosecutions, and were always a controlling force behind the populares movement. In the late republic Flavius became the most influential, and arguably strongest of the 3 triumvirs as ruler of the west.

Gens Maria
The Marians are a very old family that was highly regarded for their religious positions. Over the course of roman history they have held a stunning 7 consulships and 1 dictatorship. Much of marian history has been military oriented, known for defeating the Seleucids at Magnesia in early times. In the mid republic they were leaders of the populare movement but were assassinated when political tensions rose, temporarily weakening the family allowing the Sertorii to take control of the party. Later, the ambitious Gaius Marius Maximus became the youngest ever dictator defeating the Socii revolt, and after defeating the massive pontic forces in Greece declared the revolt against the corrupt senate with the aid of Sertori and and Rexians. After Quintus Sertorius died however the rivalry between his son Flavius and Gaius Marius Maximus became more pronounced as they were the two ambitious leaders of the populares and resented each other.

Gens Rexii
The Rexii have consistently been a presence in roman politics, having held 6 consulships and countless other positions. The Rexii are regarded as extremely skilled politicians having risen from former disgrace to great influence and wealth as a founding member of the populares. The Rexii do have a reputation of being greedy, yet their wealth bought them power that can now no longer be denied as rulers of the eastern provinces.


Winning Families- these families picked the right side and successfully navigated the roman game of thrones to high positions of power

Gens Flavii
Of all the families in Rome, the Flavii are the most well regarded among wealthy equites. Long ago this was not the case, but following the downfall of the Numetorii, the Flavii inherited much of the wealth of the Ripam Alexandrie and begun their own steady rise to 2 consulships and numerous censorships and praetorships. Aligning with the populares the Flavii became the political centerpiece of the movement as they secured such influence among the equite class that their power in the senate became overwhelming. Ever after they were given the surname of Cato, meaning wise. And wise they have been, supporting the right side becoming rich and powerful.

Gens Nipii
The Nipii emerged from obscurity in the punic wars, being used as master of horse for less competent dictators. However, in the end they secured their own command becoming heroes of the republic after defeating Hannibal at Cannae. This fame was long lasting but in the mid republic their fortunes began to dwindle as legions loyal to the Nipii were destroyed in the numerous wars. A founding member of the populares, the Nipii have been loyal partisans and this has kept them from sinking lower. Decius began to reverse these fortunes as being part of the battle of Rome and then following Sertorius into the west becoming his heir. The Nipii may rise once again…

Gens Octavii
A wealthy and influential political family, the Octavii were strong allies of the sertorii, and they aided each other's rise. The Octavii had numerous connections throughout the city of Rome among the equites, and were commonly the Praetor, but also have secured Consulship twice in history as well as governorships in cisalpine gaul. The Octavii carefully maneuvered the dangerous political battlefield, never have been assassinated, always working from within the shadows to emerge on top.

Gens Marcii
The family history of the Marcii is a winding but tragic one as well. Over the course of history they have influential, holding 4 consulships and their most famous moment was commanding the sack of Carthage, however Africanus fell to a plague and was later utterly disgraced by being implicated in treasonous plot with the Antonines. Rising from this misfortune they switched parties to the Populares and became a decisive element in the civil war by granting support in return for rule over the Asian provinces. But once again, the head of the family died, this time in battle, reducing the family to mediocrity.

Gens Paulli
The Paulli are a notoriously wealthy but also greedy roman family. They rose to power after falling out with Potestatem party by making deals with the Populares to rule wealthy provinces as long as they turned a blind eye to their corruption. Amassing huge sums, the Paulli were never in Rome for most of their history. But this is not to say they are without merit, for they helped bring roman civilization to cisalpine gaul, and were large bankrollers of the populare movement. In the civil war they grew more ambitious seeking military commands as admirals and growing closer to the Sertorian faction.

At least I am still part of the wealthy 1% Tier
Gens Numetorii
A once more powerful family in the early republic and leader of the notable third party, ripam alexandrie, the untimely death of the head of the family ended this movement. Later on, the Numetorii aligned themselves with Potestatem, but their high status was degraded by being on the losing side of the civil war. The Numetorii have held 4 Consulships, numerous other political positions and were known as saviors of Rome from the Germans and victors against the notorious Viriathus in their brightest moment.

Gens Caetronii
The Caetronii have always been defenders of the roman state, military leaders, above political factionalism. Over the course of history they have held 5 consulships and 1 dictatorship. The Caetronii were known as victors over gauls in early times, but were most influential in the mid republic reaching an apex under Lucius who defeated the Spanish revolts as well as the pirates, guiding Rome through a turbulent political time as a neutral player. In the late republic their fortunes fell as Lucius grew old and his heirs could not defend the republic from the populares. Even so, the Caetronii are a continuing strong presence in the roman state.


At least I am not dead Tier
Gens Cornelli Scipiones
An old and active family, their fortunes rose to supreme heights in the early republic as conquers of Illyria and climaxed with their 1 consulship. Later though they were politically destroyed by the Populares and then fell into obscurity, and when Gnaeus began to rise he was struck down by plague. In the late republic Metellus was known as the most stalwart defender of the senate and fought until the last at Africa.

Gens Varii
From plebian origins, the Varii rose from the lower classes to the senate with the support of the Potestatem party (by giving them huge sums of money). The Varii reached their apex in a consulship with the Numetorii, after defeating a huge german horde in pannonia. After this moment of glory they began to fade as their wealth dried up and the Potestatem lost political power. After the battle of rome they surrendered to the populares but despite this were still executed due to hatred against them from the Marians. Even so, the Varii have not been utterly destroyed as the family still lives on as their recent son has been spared by the now more merciful populare senate due to the passage of time.

Gens Pedii
Plebians like the Varii, the Pedii rose to political relevance in a dangerous political era. With civil war imminent, they were thrust into hard decisions. A marriage alliance almost occurred with the Rexii potentially earning the favor of the populares but this ultimately broken down and the Pedii backed the Senate to their ultimate doom. Despite donating their entire fortune to the senatorial cause, this was not enough as the senatorial forces failed three times in battle. Escaping from the populare onslaught as governer of narbonese Gaul, the Pedii were finally captured after the Senatorial defeat in Africa and exiled.

Losers - families fallen from power, or traitors, or extinct
Gens Antonia, Gens Phoenicii, Gens Maximii , other people who have dropped out

04.10.2016 - 15:20
 Witch-Doctor (moderator)
Tunder while trying to assassinate me and roll -1
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04.10.2016 - 15:24
Eshkruar nga Witch-Doctor, 04.10.2016 at 15:20


XAXAXA
Fucking Protestatem declared him innocent...
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04.10.2016 - 15:25
Fortune favours the brave. Our fleet will crush the Populares' pathetic comedic excuse for a navy, conquer their pitiful capital and execute all traitors we find in our way.
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04.10.2016 - 15:27
 Witch-Doctor (moderator)
Eshkruar nga Zephyrusu, 04.10.2016 at 15:25

Fortune favours the brave. Our fleet will crush the Populares' pathetic comedic excuse for a navy, conquer their pitiful capital and execute all traitors we find in our way.


You're so brave that you avoid our army in the gauls and ditch rome. Bravo brave men
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04.10.2016 - 15:30
Eshkruar nga Witch-Doctor, 04.10.2016 at 15:27

You're so brave that you avoid our army in the gauls and ditch rome. Bravo brave men

There's a difference between brave and retarded.
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04.10.2016 - 15:42
Eshkruar nga Zephyrusu, 04.10.2016 at 15:30

Eshkruar nga Witch-Doctor, 04.10.2016 at 15:27

You're so brave that you avoid our army in the gauls and ditch rome. Bravo brave men

There's a difference between brave and retarded.


IF you take Greece, their new capital will become Asia, which mind you has 50 revenue now (10 gold coins more than Greece).
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04.10.2016 - 15:47
Eshkruar nga Darth., 04.10.2016 at 15:13

Eshkruar nga Tundy, 04.10.2016 at 15:10

When i killed phoenix i meant to provoke postatem into open conflict with populares, but obviously postatem didnt care that their members were being killed over as their leader was a push over afraid of aetius.

Actually I managed to convince GC of the truth that we had not killed him, and that you were trying to frame us... As I recall you had a failed assassination attempt on your person then...


That assasination was attempted the turn before i got my governorship and marched to rome.
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04.10.2016 - 16:29
 JF.
Me and Rome shall fall together.
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04.10.2016 - 16:35
 JF.
You guys roll a stalemate. attack Greece for no reason now run to Africa.

Shame to be called Romans.
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04.10.2016 - 16:36
Eshkruar nga JF., 04.10.2016 at 16:35

You guys roll a stalemate. attack Greece for no reason now run to Africa.

Shame to be called Romans.


Pretty sure we can't run, we're all here in rome for a good time
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04.10.2016 - 16:48


Battle of Apollonia
Gaius Marius Maximus (Pyrrhus )+Decius Nipius ( Death1816) (Direct Charge)
(15 Fleets+8 command)=23 strength
Metellus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu) +Marcus Caetronianus (MrArmy987)(Direct Charge)
(17 Fleets+8 command) = 25 strength
Battle Roll: 10 (+2 from greater strength) -2 from bad omens=10
Result: Stalemate



The prepartions to invade greece took all year, but Scipio felt as though they were the last great chance for the Senate to turn the tide of the war. Together with Marcus Caetronianus, they set sail from Brundisium with fair winds. In Greece,Gaius Marius Maximus and of his longtime family allies Decius Nipius had known of the Senate's plan for many months and had moved the fleet to intercept. The two fleets met in the seas outside the city of Apollonia. Not overly fond of naval warfare, Marius performed a simple charge, while Scipio, seeing the populares fleet and with deep hatred of one of his family's rivals charged as well. What followed was a brawl. Ships sought to board and fight, many ships were sunk in flames but neither side seemed to gain any advantage. As the day went on the winds began to pick up and the waves grew higher, both fleets had to return back to port, the invasion had failed.


Effect: The Naval Invasion has been thwarted, both the senatorial navy and invasion army return to Italy

Senatorial Losses
-3 Fleets

Populare Losses
-3 Fleets
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04.10.2016 - 16:52
Now we are in a even worse position than the turn before
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04.10.2016 - 17:27
I told you thrice that attacking won't work, and thrice you attacked and thus thrice you made yourself a fool.

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04.10.2016 - 17:41
 JF.
Idk why hes producing 10 fleets for no reason.

What a waste of time.
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04.10.2016 - 17:41
Eshkruar nga Witch-Doctor, 04.10.2016 at 17:38

Gameover.
37 str rebels versus 23 str romans.

GG say F to show respect for dead.

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04.10.2016 - 17:42
 Witch-Doctor (moderator)
F
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04.10.2016 - 17:43
Eshkruar nga JF., 04.10.2016 at 17:41

Idk why hes producing 10 fleets for no reason.

What a waste of time.

rebel forces cant melt roman steel, aetius win was an inside job
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04.10.2016 - 17:47
Eshkruar nga JF., 04.10.2016 at 17:41

Idk why hes producing 10 fleets for no reason.

What a waste of time.


Instead of entrenching ourselves at Africa with a formidable army and a full war-chest, we are getting pushed into Africa with no war chest and no army. Doesn't that sound great?
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04.10.2016 - 17:55
 JF.
Eshkruar nga Tirpitz406, 04.10.2016 at 17:43

Eshkruar nga JF., 04.10.2016 at 17:41

Idk why hes producing 10 fleets for no reason.

What a waste of time.

rebel forces cant melt roman steel, aetius win was an inside job


Total catastrophe.Mixed information and leaders going in alone on orders is what lead to our demise.

Aetius did have more info than us tho.
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04.10.2016 - 17:56
 JF.
Eshkruar nga Tundy, 04.10.2016 at 17:47

Eshkruar nga JF., 04.10.2016 at 17:41

Idk why hes producing 10 fleets for no reason.

What a waste of time.


Instead of entrenching ourselves at Africa with a formidable army and a full war-chest, we are getting pushed into Africa with no war chest and no army. Doesn't that sound great?


Would be better than what we have now. Both plans were half hearted.
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04.10.2016 - 18:09
K final order

Raise 5 Legions in Cisalpine Gaul, entire army crosses Rubicon and advances on Rome under Gaius Marius Maximus (Pyrrhus ), master of horse: Decius Nipius ( Death1816)
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05.10.2016 - 00:34


Heigh' ho, heigh' ho!
Off to Rome we go!
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05.10.2016 - 00:42
The first time armed legions have crossed the Rubicon...
Man the Senate fucked up so badly
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05.10.2016 - 05:50
All my money to rebellion
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Roma Victrix
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05.10.2016 - 06:41
Eshkruar nga Tundy, 04.10.2016 at 17:27

I told you thrice that attacking won't work, and thrice you attacked and thus thrice you made yourself a fool.



Camping in Africa would just bring us a slow death, which is retarded. Risking for a chance of victory is better.
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05.10.2016 - 06:46
Aetius you fucktard

If I had to win I wouldn't have done such an attack, I was counting on the fact it'd go through besides stalemate.
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05.10.2016 - 07:05
 JF.
Eshkruar nga Zephyrusu, 05.10.2016 at 06:41



I agree but winning the Gaul battle would bring us victory. Spending 100 talents in ships for Greece would not as they would still have their army to take rome and destroy ours.


And you tactically failed hard.
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05.10.2016 - 07:08
Eshkruar nga JF., 05.10.2016 at 07:05


I agree but winning the Gaul battle would bring us victory. Spending 100 talents in ships for Greece would not as they would still have their army to take rome and destroy ours.


And you tactically failed hard.

I didn't want to risk our main force and would rather remain agile as I can redeploy wherever I want in a case of victory. Basically my plan was similar to Tunder's except I decided to try and hit them aswell
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05.10.2016 - 11:00
Naval movement =/= naval invasion, you intentioanlly cropped out the paragraph beneath naval movement explaining invasions. Now send strat so this game can continue without these long delays

I am going to ask mrarmy, if he doesn't reply in an hour I am going to assume balanced formation. You can't delay game out of butthurt.
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05.10.2016 - 11:19
Eshkruar nga Aetius, 05.10.2016 at 11:00

Naval movement =/= naval invasion, you intentioanlly cropped out the paragraph beneath naval movement explaining invasions. Now send strat so this game can continue without these long delays

I am going to ask mrarmy, if he doesn't reply in an hour I am going to assume balanced formation. You can't delay game out of butthurt.

I cropped out no paragraph for that is the only paragraph you sent me, retard. I asked you specifically for the conditions in the attack on Greece, sending me a paragraph about moving to friendly provinces makes no sense so I assumed it counted for all moves. In any case I'll send you the strat eventhough what you did is pure bullshit.
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