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Eshkruar nga Tiger, 24.10.2018 at 09:22

That's where you're wrong. Those white supremacist are the ones that are willing to be known and don't have much to lose. Imagine if some chief of surgery said whites are better surgeons than others and we need more whites ?

He wouldn't be surgeon anymore let alone chief of surgery

They don't have much to lose because they all work at mcdonalds, manual labor, or unemployed lol

Eshkruar nga Skanderbeg, 24.10.2018 at 13:30

What you just said could be true, but then that also mean Hispanic/Black have inferiority complex.

They don't though, they aren't the ones who have historically joined the KKK and similar organizations. There isn't a large alt-right movement full of black or hispanic nationalists in the US. White nationalism in the US is primarily supported by lower-middle, working class, or unemployed whites, but lower average socioeconomic for blacks/hispanics hasn't created black/hispanic nationalists. There haven't been any largescale black/hispanic nationalists in the US, excluding small organizations like the Black Panthers and similar groups

Eshkruar nga Player 999, 24.10.2018 at 19:50

They don't though, they aren't the ones who have historically joined the KKK and similar organizations.

Mexican ancestors had slavery and sacrificed people, so they are not much different than white settlers.

Eshkruar nga Player 999, 24.10.2018 at 19:50

There isn't a large alt-right movement full of black or hispanic nationalists in the US.

Alt-Right is not Right Movement, but Leftist label to describe anything and everything Right of them, that doesn't mean it's correct (even the definition is not explaining anything, as it just gather various terms in the same basket).

Eshkruar nga Player 999, 24.10.2018 at 19:50

White nationalism in the US is primarily supported by lower-middle, working class, or unemployed whites, but lower average socioeconomic for blacks/hispanics hasn't created black/hispanic nationalists.

No they just do crime and deal drugs.

Maybe lower-class whites have freedom to choose nationalism since they are out of the system: system where middle-class exist? They are not forced to obey same rules and narrative middle class is forced (agendas, narrative, mainstream)

Eshkruar nga Player 999, 24.10.2018 at 19:50

There haven't been any largescale black/hispanic nationalists in the US, excluding small organizations like the Black Panthers and similar groups

Black Panthers, Nation of Islam? Didn't they aim for Black and non-white to convert?

Eshkruar nga Skanderbeg, 24.10.2018 at 19:59

Mexican ancestors had slavery and sacrificed people, so they are not much different than white settlers.

Alt-Right is not Right Movement, but Leftist label to describe anything and everything Right of them, that doesn't mean it's correct (even the definition is not explaining anything, as it just gather various terms in the same basket).

No they just do crime and deal drugs.

Maybe lower-class whites have freedom to choose nationalism since they are out of the system: system where middle-class exist? They are not forced to obey same rules and narrative middle class is forced (agendas, narrative, mainstream)

Black Panthers, Nation of Islam? Didn't they aim for Black and non-white to convert?

Just because someone's ancestors had slavery and sacrificed people doesn't make them caucasian. Was Genghis Khan white? Though I agree that the Aztecs.etc. were very brutal civilizations, if the accounts of the Spanish are accurate enough to go by

Alt-right isn't just a label to describe everything right of left. It's an informal alliance of various nefarious racist groups, and is only composed of a small fraction of the right. There are plenty of good conservatives, as you said. The alt-right is the extreme right (which happens to believe in white nationalism), not just everyone who happens to vote conservative. Nothing wrong with having voted for Trump, he has his merits. Only a small fraction of conservatives are in the alt-right (perhaps 10% or less), definitely not a majority of conservatives. Most conservatives are the least racist people you'd meet, but a small fraction are alt-right

Crime rate is actually equal for all races in the US when adjusted for socioeconomic status. Black/Hispanic dominant neighborhoods often have high crime rates because of the high level of poverty, from a statistical perspective. But perhaps you could argue that cultural values (anti-intellectualism, high single motherhood rate, etc, high prevalence of organized crime) contribute to the high crime rate. And yes those values should definitely be fixed if those neighborhoods want to reach economic parity

Is it justified for people to turn to racism just because they have less economic opportunities? Remember that racist attitudes towards blacks in the US were originally started by wealthy landowners in the 1600s/1700s, in order to create a division between poor whites and poor blacks. After bacon's rebellion and similar events, the rich landowners in the US pushed for a racial caste system in order to reduce class conflict. So that racism was actually historically created by the societal elite in order to maintain their power

I guess you're right about Black Panthers and Nation of Islam, they should be condemned if they are pursuing any sort of racial supremacy. But it doesn't absolve white supremacists just because BP and NoI exist, and also white supremacists exist at a much higher number in the US than black supremacists

Eshkruar nga Player 999, 24.10.2018 at 20:14

Just because someone's ancestors had slavery and sacrificed people doesn't make them caucasian. Was Genghis Khan white? Though I agree that the Aztecs.etc. were very brutal civilizations, if the accounts of the Spanish are accurate enough to go by

Alt-right isn't just a label to describe everything right of left. It's an informal alliance of various nefarious racist groups, and is only composed of a small fraction of the right. There are plenty of good conservatives, as you said. The alt-right is the extreme right (which happens to believe in white nationalism), not just everyone who happens to vote conservative. Nothing wrong with having voted for Trump, he has his merits. Only a small fraction of conservatives are in the alt-right (perhaps 10% or less), definitely not a majority of conservatives. Most conservatives are the least racist people you'd meet, but a small fraction are alt-right

Crime rate is actually equal for all races in the US when adjusted for socioeconomic status. Black/Hispanic dominant neighborhoods often have high crime rates because of the high level of poverty, from a statistical perspective. But perhaps you could argue that cultural values (anti-intellectualism, high single motherhood rate, etc, high prevalence of organized crime) contribute to the high crime rate. And yes those values should definitely be fixed if those neighborhoods want to reach economic parity

Is it justified for people to turn to racism just because they have less economic opportunities? Remember that racist attitudes towards blacks in the US were originally started by wealthy landowners in the 1600s/1700s, in order to create a division between poor whites and poor blacks. After bacon's rebellion and similar events, the rich landowners in the US pushed for a racial caste system in order to reduce class conflict. So that racism was actually historically created by the societal elite in order to maintain their power

I guess you're right about Black Panthers and Nation of Islam, they should be condemned if they are pursuing any sort of racial supremacy. But it doesn't absolve white supremacists just because BP and NoI exist, and also white supremacists exist at a much higher number in the US than black supremacists

I'm just saying i don't see racist, white supremacists and nationalists, i am not defending Right-wing ideology. I've been watching closely how the events unfold in America in the last 2 years and i see Left-wing being extremist, even racist. And they even attack and label the Center as right-wing and extreme.

There are many issues i know you are informed about: class segregation by the non-white during certain classes like history(colonialism) and language(literature)at some colleges for starter. Then comes wage gap myth (anti-men), immigration (anti-white), left atheism (anti-christian) etc.

You are talking about Alt-Right like it's some secret society, reminds me of the Brotherhood in 1984 (no concrete facts, just rumors and various labels). I understand what you want to say, you want to say Alt-Right is minority, some small radical group influencing the masses, or atleast trying, but we can't talk further about it before we post some evidence of their existance.

I yet have to see Right-wing parade in the daylight in the West, like they do in Baltic, Ukraine or Croatia (Eastern Europe). I have to be honest and say that i only see Left-wing parading.

I guess you're right about some people in the left, there are plenty of democrats who demonize republicans instead of recognizing that people with different political views still have the same core values. Different political views doesn't make someone evil.

Plenty of the alt-right parade, there are open KKK and racist groups parading at different political events around the country. Yes there are a lot more people on the left parading, but the extreme right does parade openly in the US, albeit with huge numbers of counterprotesters wherever they try to parade